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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby vampko » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:29 am

KarisSelmon7891 wrote:
Alura--x--Uneii wrote:They do need to write better Main male characters though... :?


I agree, though I don't really remember the main male's personalities in the previous Atelier games.
I do like to know what makes a good male character, since I'm writing my own stories.

Vayne 8-)
I think Klein was actually pretty good as well actually.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby LAMV » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:49 am

vampko wrote:
KarisSelmon7891 wrote:
Alura--x--Uneii wrote:They do need to write better Main male characters though... :?


I agree, though I don't really remember the main male's personalities in the previous Atelier games.
I do like to know what makes a good male character, since I'm writing my own stories.

Vayne 8-)
I think Klein was actually pretty good as well actually.


Heh, I know this is a NISA-only joke, but:

Norn: I'm so lonely. Sleep with me, Klein.

Klein: I can't do that! The ESRB would come after us!
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby vampko » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:56 am

LAMV wrote:
vampko wrote:
KarisSelmon7891 wrote:
I agree, though I don't really remember the main male's personalities in the previous Atelier games.
I do like to know what makes a good male character, since I'm writing my own stories.

Vayne 8-)
I think Klein was actually pretty good as well actually.


Heh, I know this is a NISA-only joke, but:

Norn: I'm so lonely. Sleep with me, Klein.

Klein: I can't do that! The ESRB would come after us!

:lol:
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby Reth » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:15 am

KarisSelmon7891 wrote:I do like to know what makes a good male character, since I'm writing my own stories.


I think all of Japan's writing professionals would like to know that too, so share it if you find out. They still seem to think the oblivious and naive nice guy or the jaded and emo hothead are the only two character designs to choose from.

Can't dispute it if it sells though... I'd say use Yuri from Vesperia as a great suggestion of character, but even he falls victim to the typical Japanese anime tropes on occassion.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby Beedlebud » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:18 am

I think maybe Atelier is due for a Male protagonist, but certain franchises (*cough* Disgaea *cough cough*) could use a hint from Gust and make a female protagonist.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby Alura--x--Uneii » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:50 pm

I know Iris has a male protagonist. But if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby KarisSelmon7891 » Wed May 02, 2012 12:48 am

The alchemy system is pretty much the same in all the Atelier series, but does it means that this gameplay mechanic is patented? I'm asking about this since I'm writing my own story, which involves alchemy, I have to create my own alchemy system after all?

when I look at it, the alchemy in the Atelier series seems to based closely to sorcery; and the alchemy in different media (Fullmetal Alchemst) is more based on science. Could they be one and the same?
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby Reminus » Fri May 04, 2012 11:58 pm

Since you're writing an alchemy story, you should be aware that alchemy is a mixture of not only science, but of magic as well. FMA and Atelier are kind of perfect examples of alchemy that is a little more science and a little more magic. Be aware though, that science and magic are both common elements in alchemy. It's up to you to decide if you wish your story to have more magic, or more science in your interpretation with alchemy. But it kind of needs both.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby AsukaYui » Fri May 18, 2012 10:27 am

Does Mana Khemia count?
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby vampko » Fri May 18, 2012 10:45 pm

AsukaYui wrote:Does Mana Khemia count?

Yes, Mana Khemia was an Atelier game with a male main character. As were the Iris games.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby NiwaTG » Sun May 27, 2012 8:07 pm

Well, I suppose they just think that Female characters are more suited for the Alchemy and such in the games. If you think about it the Male leads were more for combat then making things. I think Klein was like the only one that actually used alchemy in the earlier games, besides the males in the Mana Khemia games that is.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby Reth » Mon May 28, 2012 8:33 am

NiwaTG wrote:Well, I suppose they just think that Female characters are more suited for the Alchemy and such in the games. If you think about it the Male leads were more for combat then making things. I think Klein was like the only one that actually used alchemy in the earlier games, besides the males in the Mana Khemia games that is.


Lets not sugarcoat it, the truth is Gust decided on female characters for the moe - and it works, there are lots of people in the target market who strictly play games with female casts for the moe (Hence Neptunia's popularity).

Hell, GUST even openly admitted that they refused to draw Rorona in her mid-20's because it wouldn't be as cute, so instead they made her a mega-loli for Meruru. I'm still looking forward to the explanation for that in game.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby LAMV » Mon May 28, 2012 9:06 am

Reth wrote:Hell, GUST even openly admitted that they refused to draw Rorona in her mid-20's because it wouldn't be as cute, so instead they made her a mega-loli for Meruru.


And it backfired. Japanese fans raged hard. They wanted Christmas Cake Rorona.
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby Reth » Tue May 29, 2012 8:35 am

LAMV wrote:
Reth wrote:Hell, GUST even openly admitted that they refused to draw Rorona in her mid-20's because it wouldn't be as cute, so instead they made her a mega-loli for Meruru.


And it backfired. Japanese fans raged hard. They wanted Christmas Cake Rorona.


That's good to hear, I would have thought I was in minority for wanting to see mature Rorona. I actually like seeing characters grow up over a series. :(
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Re: WANTED!!!: A Male Charcter for the Next Atelier Game

Postby vampko » Tue May 29, 2012 8:45 am

I am totally a fan of lolis, but I would have rather seen Rorona grown up tbh. I think most loli fans think the same. course, I'm not a crazy Japanese otaku, I'm just a crazy American otaku :P
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