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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid

Postby shadowmaksim » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:13 pm

vampko wrote:Even bondage chick I wouldn't 100% say that she wasn't in a relationship with the other girl. She could just be that masochistic that that's what she needs, and bondage chick is the girl who gives it to her.


If it helps, that's along the lines of what I thought as well.

The whole premise of the show, at least so far, is about people (pretty much females only at this point) getting turned into weapons after getting extremely sexually stimulated. So my thoughts are that the pairs made between each Exster and Liberator has to be one of utmost trust due to how touchy of a subject this kind of thing can be.

So chances are that the eye-patch woman, Saejima I think her name was, probably really does care for her partner and is in a relationship but has to play along with her fetish so that they can actually activate Fusion Trance, or whatever it was called.

Either that or they aren't and their Sadist-Masochist match up was just fitting (to show how abusable the whole pairing system can get)...or it could just be parts of both. Hard to say exactly at this point.

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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby Seventh » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:23 pm

Definitely a fair assumption to make, for sure, but for an opening episode, it's not really a strong sign when you have to leave so much up to the viewer.

I mean, if trust is a big deal, should two complete strangers be able to do it? It really does seem like it's just about arousal based on the main girls.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby Rednal » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:42 pm

They explained basically nothing and have a system that makes essentially no sense whatsoever. I'm okay with fanservice, but I hope for things to make at least SOME sense. Givin' it one more episode to explain things properly.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby shadowmaksim » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:44 pm

Seventh wrote:I mean, if trust is a big deal, should two complete strangers be able to do it? It really does seem like it's just about arousal based on the main girls.


I meant that it's still very much arousal based. Just that trust plays on how much they'd be comfortable getting aroused by the other person, probably could make the whole process progress more smoothly and quicker as well if nothing else.

...I swear I'm thinking way too deeply about this. Sometimes silly sexual stuff is just supposed to be silly sexual stuff. This is becoming "Monter Musume" all over again for me.

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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby Rednal » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:57 pm

Monster Musume actually DID put thought into its world. Lots.

...I haven't yet seen any sign of that in this series.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby shadowmaksim » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:19 pm

Well, I wouldn't go that far given how little material there is for the series in general. Just a single 24 minute episode so far, one that barely even bothered explaining much in the first place.

But yeah, anyway...I'm actually a bit relieved that you mentioned that. I swear I was close to the only one who took "Monster Musume" at all seriously (I've watched/read a lot of reactions/impressions/reviews for it).

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Postby Rednal » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:57 pm

Nah, I think most people who really watched/read MM noticed the worldbuilding. XD That's actually one of the big reasons I like the series - they actually think about stuff like what they eat, where they can buy clothes, how each character's physiology differs... it's fun.

Valkyrie Drive... hasn't really demonstrated any thought in its worldbuilding yet. I do hope we get that soon, though, because "SEXY BATTLE WITH NO INFORMATION" can only take you so far.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby Seventh » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:15 pm

They may have really just hurt themselves splitting themselves into three things, though at the same time, kind of glad the game and even mobile game stuff are on mediums where they can avoid porn and thus need more for themselves.

On the other hand, the mobile game's a harem, so...
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby neonie » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:51 pm

[Note: I haven't watched the first episode, only read the comments here]

I only have room in my life for one cock-tease anime, and that's To Love-Ru.

So if this doesn't become either a Seikon no Qwaser style "yeah this anime has tits BUT THINGS ARE HAPPENING" style anime, or a "Mostly lets skip the tits LOOK ACTION!" anime, I'll pass.

I don't mind the idea of girls kissing or whatever to activate their power. I mean in Qwaser they literally have to suck breasts for magic. I'm totally cool with it. But if it's not going to be MOSTLY plot and action driven, I so totally don't need some fanservice/Slice of Life yuri thing from the guy who only thinks women with enormous boobs are valuable.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby Seventh » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:02 pm

neonie wrote:I don't mind the idea of girls kissing or whatever to activate their power.
In order, this episode
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has one girl grope another for it, one girl kiss another for it, an S&M girl kicking her partner in the crotch and doing their schtick for it, and then lastly you had topless symmetrical docking with kissing for it.


neonie wrote:But if it's not going to be MOSTLY plot and action driven, I so totally don't need some fanservice/Slice of Life yuri thing from
Not much plot from what I can see and the action kind of sucks but it does at least seem to have direction. Not sure where you got slice of life.

neonie wrote:the guy who only thinks women with enormous boobs are valuable.
Senran is the way it is because that's what sets it apart. It's an easy way to distinguish yourself from all the other things. Regardless, the characters in this and the mobile game are a lot more varied.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby shadowmaksim » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:24 pm

neonie wrote:the guy who only thinks women with enormous boobs are valuable.


There is looking to actually be more variety this time around if that helps at all. We got the usual completely flat and huge sizes, but there is more in between, at least from what little of the designs I've seen. Though I think the extremes are getting more challenged as well...like to "Eiken" levels even.

But it's also hard to tell since most of them are mostly clothed. For all intents and purposes, their sizes could magically get significantly bigger when in the flesh. Like, I swear Mamori's size fluctuated a couple times in the episode but honestly that could have just been me.

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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby neonie » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:28 pm

Seventh wrote:In order, this episode
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has one girl grope another for it, one girl kiss another for it, an S&M girl kicking her partner in the crotch and doing their schtick for it, and then lastly you had topless symmetrical docking with kissing for it.


I am fine with all of this. The activation method is a non-issue really.

Seventh wrote:Not much plot from what I can see and the action kind of sucks but it does at least seem to have direction. Not sure where you got slice of life.


The "Not much plot" part of your first sentence.

Seventh wrote:Senran is the way it is because that's what sets it apart. It's an easy way to distinguish yourself from all the other things. Regardless, the characters in this and the mobile game are a lot more varied.


I feel like maybe we've had this discussion before, but I'll say again. It's fine if that's it's shtick and what sets it apart. While I don't really like the one size fits all chest sizes of Senran Kagura and Dead or Alive (an opinion it feels like a lot of people share, if Maries popularity is anything to go by), I would be fine with it if, the anime at least (since I didn't pay attention to the games story) hadn't treated Mirai like complete garbage, because at that point to me it went from being a shtick and the way it distinguishes it self, to trying to make a statement. And It's that statement I don't agree with.

shadowmaksim wrote:There is looking to actually be more variety this time around if that helps at all.


Oh, pink haired lady actually is pretty cute. Shame she's not voiced by Hikasa, Yoko.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby vampko » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:05 am

neonie wrote:the anime at least (since I didn't pay attention to the games story) hadn't treated Mirai like complete garbage, because at that point to me it went from being a shtick and the way it distinguishes it self, to trying to make a statement. And It's that statement I don't agree with.

The games are even better about how they treat Mirai. She's arguable the most fleshed out and interesting character in Burst.

But I agree that this guy's fascination with giant breasts is on the annoying side. I really wish a more lolicon-friendly dev would make a Senran Kagura-esque game. I'm pretty hesitant on VD's game mainly because, unlike the anime/mobile game, there's just no variety. It's basically all just gigantonormous.

Speaking of that, for some reason Meifang is parading around with giant pads...
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby neonie » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:28 am

vampko wrote:
neonie wrote:the anime at least (since I didn't pay attention to the games story) hadn't treated Mirai like complete garbage, because at that point to me it went from being a shtick and the way it distinguishes it self, to trying to make a statement. And It's that statement I don't agree with.

The games are even better about how they treat Mirai. She's arguable the most fleshed out and interesting character in Burst.

But I agree that this guy's fascination with giant breasts is on the annoying side. I really wish a more lolicon-friendly dev would make a Senran Kagura-esque game. I'm pretty hesitant on VD's game mainly because, unlike the anime/mobile game, there's just no variety. It's basically all just gigantonormous.

Speaking of that, for some reason Meifang is parading around with giant pads...


Huh, actually your comment, I'm not sure why, but it just made me realize there's a pretty fantastic counter argument to Seventh's claim about how the giant breasts in Senran Kagura are what "set it apart".

The fact that the giant breasts in Senran Kagura, to me, and I assume plenty of other people, aren't it's only selling point. Senran Kagura is already unique without the giant breasts, even if they had a variety of breasts and body types (more than they do now), what it's selling point to me was, and I assume some other people, is that there aren't a lot of good Character Action games on the market. Much less character action games using cute anime girls.

Most of the character action games you see are, sadly, more on the "realism" side of things like DmC, or have the worst looking protagonist I've ever seen (Bayonetta).

And most of the games coming out of Japan are either Mobile (Puzzle and Dragons), or JRPG's. Old hat stuff that's been done to death.

In fact the one gameplay gripe I have with Senran Kagura is that it's stages are trite and disjointed, and you don't have the level progression of something like DmC, you never feel like you're going anywhere in those games, it's just a series of transparent battle arenas. Which is also what made me disinterested in caring about it's story at all, because without feeling like I'm progressing through the world and levels of the game, it makes the story also feel lacking.

It feels like they stopped just short of actually making a pretty amazing game series that I could fully get behind.
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Re: [Fall 2015] Valkyrie Drive Mermaid (NSFW)

Postby Seventh » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:52 am

Holy cow dude, this vendetta you have against the guy is getting a little ridiculous.

You're a lolicon, we get it, but let's not pretend there are a ton of games exclusively about busty anime girls, especially when Burst came out in 2012 or whenever. There aren't even that many now.

Yes, the game has other selling points, but having something unique that sets it apart =/= only having one thing as a selling point. The 3DS has other brawlers, it has other anime games, and in general, all girl or largely-girl casts have been starting to become more common. Plus, for a Japanese game that originally had no intention to localize, being an anime game alone isn't really that unique a thing, to be fair.

And yeah, maybe Taka likes big knockers. Given the lengths you're going here for your tastes, no offense, but it's kinda getting on the side of hypocritical. Regardless, maybe you should look at Mirai in the actual games if you're going to hold her portrayal against him, though? As vamp said, she's arguably one of the most fleshed out characters in the series.

More importantly though, if the pissing match Taka's been hinting ar on Twitter with his bosses is as bad as it sounds, VD's game may be intended to replace Senran since it sounds like he's been getting chewed out for games post-SV not selling as well, at least from what I understand.
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