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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby Ubiquitor » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:08 am

darkclaymore wrote:I thought about perhaps using promotion in a more complex way, in order to ensure the sum of all ranks is balanced for all teams. In practice, in this specific game only Pringles got a higher rank than the rest, as DFs for both Regular and Leadership are the same. So the most that could really happen is promoting a single player from any Tribe which isn't Pringles's by one rank. But that sorta brands achieving high ranks anti-climatic.


That would actually provide balance. The value of achieving high rank in this case is to simply ensure that you yourself have a decent setup, as opposed to those in the other teams who must rely on random selection of the equalizer to gain power. I strongly suggest you use this approach as it gives hope to the screwed-over majority. From a control-system perspective, I believe this approach would be ideal.

darkclaymore wrote:Then again, a Tribe composed of high ranks is also more likely to fall first as more players in it will be targeted. So I think things sorta even themselves out on that plane. In the end, it's not like lower ranks can't take out higher ranks if they play right.


I honestly don't think you can rely on that to create balance.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby lopez » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:17 am

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I gotta pick a rank right? The private/lowest level is fine. Yes, I had points from last game (right?), but I won't use them (if I had any to begin with... :? )
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby darkclaymore » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:13 pm

Ubiquitor wrote:
darkclaymore wrote:I thought about perhaps using promotion in a more complex way, in order to ensure the sum of all ranks is balanced for all teams. In practice, in this specific game only Pringles got a higher rank than the rest, as DFs for both Regular and Leadership are the same. So the most that could really happen is promoting a single player from any Tribe which isn't Pringles's by one rank. But that sorta brands achieving high ranks anti-climatic.


That would actually provide balance. The value of achieving high rank in this case is to simply ensure that you yourself have a decent setup, as opposed to those in the other teams who must rely on random selection of the equalizer to gain power. I strongly suggest you use this approach as it gives hope to the screwed-over majority. From a control-system perspective, I believe this approach would be ideal.

Well, maybe I'll use it.
Will decide after I write down all the rules. Perhaps I'll be able to come up with a better idea by then.


lopez wrote:I gotta pick a rank right? The private/lowest level is fine.

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Lopez actually read rules for once...? The end of the world is upon us...


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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby darkclaymore » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:04 am

Updated about 85% of the Mechanics. Brace yourself for lots of mindfuck.

As I almost finished writing down everything, I'm thinking about starting this in about 3 days.

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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby Ubiquitor » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:41 am

- "Miss" counts as "hitting resistance" in this case. "Miss" happens when a command fails to hit target. Commands that have a certain "success rate", such as Expel, don't "Miss" if their effect didn't come into effect. They miss only in case they failed to target the foe.


Would the effect of Sukukaja lead to high "Miss" rates of this sort? If so, I fear a scenario in which the outcome depends far more on Random.org than actual strategy.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby darkclaymore » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:00 am

Ubiquitor wrote:
- "Miss" counts as "hitting resistance" in this case. "Miss" happens when a command fails to hit target. Commands that have a certain "success rate", such as Expel, don't "Miss" if their effect didn't come into effect. They miss only in case they failed to target the foe.


Would the effect of Sukukaja lead to high "Miss" rates of this sort? If so, I fear a scenario in which the outcome depends far more on Random.org than actual strategy.

Here the buff skills are more tame and can be stacked up to four times like in the games.
Every time 10% is added. So only after being cast four times, the chance to evade will really go up to a remarkable number of 40%. With every Sukukaja costing about 16 SP (still need to decide how much exactly), the whole thing ends up costing 64 SP and taking four turns (unless multi sukukaja users). Which I believe is fine.

Of course, 4 x Sukukaja on all allies + 4 x Sukunda against all remaining enemies = almost auto win. But... in the original games I'd say it's roughly as useful. The option to limit it as far as 3 stacks also exists I suppose.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby TheForeignGamer » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:10 pm

Shign me upsh! I didn't realize you started this so early, clay. I wasn't expecting another game so soon.

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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby PringlesXD » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:54 pm

S-So read the rules.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby Ubiquitor » Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:46 am

TheForeignGamer wrote:(I don't know what those crescents and stars are for :| )


Lopez with minimal presence has retroactively put you to shame.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby TheForeignGamer » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:14 am

You know me, I never read the rules of the game I sign up for until it actually starts. But it's partly due to the fact that I'm away from home most of the time, and don't have time to read all of clay's wall-text of rules.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby PringlesXD » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:16 am

Then don't ask for stuff that are obviously found amongst the rules.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby Ubiquitor » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:21 am

Pringles speaks the truth: do not expect everyone to accommodate your laziness.
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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby TheForeignGamer » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:33 am

Then I'm /in as a lieutenant.

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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby darkclaymore » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:04 am

So far it's pretty much the same cast, only that Shizuka was traded for Mizu Image

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Re: Digital Devil Clash x 2 [Signups]

Postby Shizuka » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:46 am

darkclaymore wrote:Shizuka: Not gonna play? (If you even read this thread)

Thank you, but I'm handling a lot of stuff IRL, I probably won't have as much time to dedicate to this game as I'm making for the mafia game. I'm sorry, maybe next time.
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