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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby Unvivid » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:23 am

well.... techincally speaking... some lolis just look really young but are actually quite old...
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby ZekeFreek » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:33 am

LordLaharlsVassal wrote:
ZekeFreek wrote:I'm confused. How is the continent with nude beaches (yes, children go to these too) against lolis?


Approving of nudity is not the same as approving sexualization of little girls, you silly americano.


Allow me to reiterate. They allow children on nude beaches too. Basically putting pedobait on display for everyone to see, but yet they have a problem with fictitious characters being sexualized?

There is a disconnect in that logic.
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby TheSwordUser » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:58 am

ZekeFreek wrote:
LordLaharlsVassal wrote:
ZekeFreek wrote:I'm confused. How is the continent with nude beaches (yes, children go to these too) against lolis?


Approving of nudity is not the same as approving sexualization of little girls, you silly americano.


Allow me to reiterate. They allow children on nude beaches too. Basically putting pedobait on display for everyone to see, but yet they have a problem with fictitious characters being sexualized?

There is a disconnect in that logic.


Being nude and being nude doing ledw stuff are two diffirent things.
Nudists seem to have diffirent culture and they don't go to nude beaches just to look at boobies and booties and fap to them, but to enjoy nature.

Also, this thread isn't going to end well, I better stop here.

No sight of Mugen Souls where I live (Poland), I guess that it's just Asia being good at breaking street dates.

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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby ZekeFreek » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:39 am

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LordLaharlsVassal wrote:
ZekeFreek wrote:I'm confused. How is the continent with nude beaches (yes, children go to these too) against lolis?


Approving of nudity is not the same as approving sexualization of little girls, you silly americano.


Allow me to reiterate. They allow children on nude beaches too. Basically putting pedobait on display for everyone to see, but yet they have a problem with fictitious characters being sexualized?

There is a disconnect in that logic.


Being nude and being nude doing ledw stuff are two diffirent things.
Nudists seem to have diffirent culture and they don't go to nude beaches just to look at boobies and booties and fap to them, but to enjoy nature.

Also, this thread isn't going to end well, I better stop here.

No sight of Mugen Souls where I live (Poland), I guess that it's just Asia being good at breaking street dates.


You put nude children outside and I assure you, Someone... Somewhere will fap to them.
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby CheeseKao » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:51 am

I have a question. Are normal video game stores in or mom and pop stores as some of you call it, obligated to follow street dates?

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Do video game stores besides the big ones in the west stock up that many copies?
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby ZekeFreek » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:54 am

CheeseKao wrote:I have a question. Are normal video game stores in or mom and pop stores as some of you call it, obligated to follow street dates?

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Do video game stores besides the big ones in the west stock up that many copies?


I've never worked at GameStop. But I have friends that do and have been in their back rooms before.

No, not thaaaaaat many, unless its something huge like CoD or Madden.


As for Mom and Pop stores... Whatever ones still exist (not many), Id think it's even less.
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby LordLaharlsVassal » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:33 am

ZekeFreek wrote:Allow me to reiterate. They allow children on nude beaches too. Basically putting pedobait on display for everyone to see, but yet they have a problem with fictitious characters being sexualized?

There is a disconnect in that logic.


Not really, that only makes sense if you think nudity is inherently sexual, which I as a European disagree with. There is a huge difference between treating a child like a sex-object and letting a child run around naked.
People on this planet will fap to anything, we are just that diverse when it comes to sexuality, but that does not mean people will approve of all kinds of media that is made with the intention of faping to.

Sorry for going of topic, but peoples view of nudity as inherently sexual just bugs me, and I feel the need to say why each time I see it.
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby ZekeFreek » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:10 pm

LordLaharlsVassal wrote:
ZekeFreek wrote:Allow me to reiterate. They allow children on nude beaches too. Basically putting pedobait on display for everyone to see, but yet they have a problem with fictitious characters being sexualized?

There is a disconnect in that logic.


Not really, that only makes sense if you think nudity is inherently sexual, which I as a European disagree with. There is a huge difference between treating a child like a sex-object and letting a child run around naked.
People on this planet will fap to anything, we are just that diverse when it comes to sexuality, but that does not mean people will approve of all kinds of media that is made with the intention of faping to.

Sorry for going of topic, but peoples view of nudity as inherently sexual just bugs me, and I feel the need to say why each time I see it.


I don't see it as I inherently sexual, although most Americans would.

My problem is that Europeans think they can cherry-pick what is and isn't okay. What if said nude children start posing erotically on the beach? You gonna censor that too? Or is it okay because their just naked and not inherently sexual? Or because they aren't Drawings?

Why would you treat actual children more leniently than just drawings of children/child-like beings?
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby TheSwordUser » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:33 pm

ZekeFreek wrote:What if said nude children start posing erotically on the beach?

Why would they do that, for crying out loud....

If they did, someone would immidietly call the cops and parents would get arrested for letting those kids know of such stuff. From what I understand, those kind of beaches have their set of rules and it can go extreme ways, like getting arrested for sexual harrasment for just fapping to other nude people arround, despite not even bothering them personally. They have their own savoir vivre and people going to such places, especially parents and kids, aren't criminals.

ZekeFreek wrote:Why would you treat actual children more leniently than just drawings of children/child-like beings?


Because they're actual living beings, I guess. I can rip a drawing into little pieces and trash it, because it turned out to be shitty by my standards. Try to do that with a newbor-

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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby LordLaharlsVassal » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:43 pm

ZekeFreek wrote:My problem is that Europeans think they can cherry-pick what is and isn't okay. What if said nude children start posing erotically on the beach? You gonna censor that too? Or is it okay because their just naked and not inherently sexual? Or because they aren't Drawings?

Why would you treat actual children more leniently than just drawings of children/child-like beings?


Kids are the parent’s responsibility, if they want to let their kid run around naked one can’t deny them that; as long as the kid is safe, cared for, nurtured and not abused or exploited in any way, there are no good reasons to take that right away from the parent to raise their kids as they see fit.

Sexual content of minors is someone else's responsibility, which you already know of I believe.
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby vampko » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:46 pm

One could argue that a drawing of Lightning in an erotic pose would be 'sexual content of a minor', if they wanted to.
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby Houk » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:24 pm

Hey, so let's cool it on the pedophilia talk, yes? If for no other reason than it being wildly off-topic.

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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby vampko » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:38 pm

Mugen Souls just draws that sort of talk, it's pretty inevitable. Anyway, kinda odd that Asia's getting copies of the game before it even ships from NISA's warehouse..
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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby ZekeFreek » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:05 pm

Houk wrote:Hey, so let's cool it on the pedophilia talk, yes? If for no other reason than it being wildly off-topic.


Oh come on! A few dozen more pages worth of debate and I might've gotten some leverage.

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Re: Is the game out in Europe already?

Postby darkrchaos » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:58 pm

yea I got that. So does that mean they ship it on the 10th too?


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