~Mugen Souls Official JSFPS Thread~

[neonie]

Tsundere....is complicated.

it's more like they can't say what they really feel. They use anger/agressiveness/etc to hide their true feelings. Oftentimes they do it without thinking. Probably due to adopting that attitude early in their life. They'll often realize after the fact that they said something they didn't want to. Sometimes it's so others don't think 'badly' of them. So they put on a front so people don't know that's what they're really thinking.

That's probably enough for now.

Chou-Chou Emotional Suppression

[Beedlebud]

Tsundere....is complicated.

it's more like they can't say what they really feel. They use anger/agressiveness/etc to hide their true feelings. Oftentimes they do it without thinking. Probably due to adopting that attitude early in their life. They'll often realize after the fact that they said something they didn't want to. Sometimes it's so others don't think 'badly' of them. So they put on a front so people don't know that's what they're really thinking.

That's probably enough for now.

Which is the reason why it shouldn't be changed. Just like "moe."

[vampko]

Tsundere....is complicated.

it's more like they can't say what they really feel. They use anger/agressiveness/etc to hide their true feelings. Oftentimes they do it without thinking. Probably due to adopting that attitude early in their life. They'll often realize after the fact that they said something they didn't want to. Sometimes it's so others don't think 'badly' of them. So they put on a front so people don't know that's what they're really thinking.

That's probably enough for now.

Chou-Chou Emotional Suppression

But it's basically self-dishonesty pretty much. But that wouldn't roll off the tongue as well. As long as they don't try and actually make her bipolar, then I'm fine with whatever.

[neonie]

Spoiler:

Chou-Chou Menstrual

[Beedlebud]

Tsundere....is complicated.

it's more like they can't say what they really feel. They use anger/agressiveness/etc to hide their true feelings. Oftentimes they do it without thinking. Probably due to adopting that attitude early in their life. They'll often realize after the fact that they said something they didn't want to. Sometimes it's so others don't think 'badly' of them. So they put on a front so people don't know that's what they're really thinking.

That's probably enough for now.

Chou-Chou Emotional Suppression

But it's basically self-dishonesty pretty much. But that wouldn't roll off the tongue as well. As long as they don't try and actually make her bipolar, then I'm fine with whatever.

I was more worried about this than the name change...

[Rednal]

I doubt it. XD They know we'd totally flip out, and the change makes no sense at all.

[Beedlebud]

I doubt it. XD They know we'd totally flip out, and the change makes no sense at all.

The name change already makes no sense

[BDSMKane]

precarious: 1: depending on the will or pleasure of another
2: dependent on uncertain premises : dubious <precarious generalizations>
3a : dependent on chance circumstances, unknown conditions, or uncertain developments b : characterized by a lack of security or stability that threatens with danger

inconstancy: the quality or state of being inconstant

Sorry for taking so long to give some real options, had to go out and do a job.

[Lyner Barfless]

Bipolar was probably the one that made the most sense in the end, since there really isn't a common word for Tsundere over here, and just leaving it unlocalized would look odd, with every other name being changed to fit a western description

^This, as I posted in the other thread like a fool and will momentarily paste it here.

As for Bipolar, we wanted to keep the translations consistent. Either we use all the JP descriptors (genki, tsundere, etc) or we use English ones. And not the original "English" ones, since most didn't make sense. And there was an 8-character limit (so Masochist will show up as M, and Sadist will match it where relevant with S).

[BDSMKane]

Bipolar was probably the one that made the most sense in the end, since there really isn't a common word for Tsundere over here, and just leaving it unlocalized would look odd, with every other name being changed to fit a western description

^This, as I posted in the other thread like a fool and will momentarily paste it here.

As for Bipolar, we wanted to keep the translations consistent. Either we use all the JP descriptors (genki, tsundere, etc) or we use English ones. And not the original "English" ones, since most didn't make sense. And there was an 8-character limit (so Masochist will show up as M, and Sadist will match it where relevant with S).

That makes sense. Honestly I don't get too bothered by localization so it isn't important to me, I just found the change interesting.

Edit: Since I didn't look up too much about the original game to avoid spoilers, I don't know all of the personalities. I don't suppose there is a Chou-Chou Bondage also?

[Rednal]

Chou-Chou "Sadist" is pretty close...

@Lyner: Ah. I hadn't thought about the "make them all English or all Japanese" bit...

[Lyner Barfless]

That makes sense. Honestly I don't get too bothered by localization so it isn't important to me, I just found the change interesting.

Edit: Since I didn't look up too much about the original game to avoid spoilers, I don't know all of the personalities. I don't suppose there is a Chou-Chou Bondage also?

Haha, hmm...well, I suppose the Masochist may express an interest in such things at some point during the game. I think they quoted her in the ESRB description, too!

[Rednal]

If they make a sequel, I sort of hope to see a new slate of personalities for Chou-Chou... get some really neat ones, like Chou-Chou Psycho, Chou-Chou Jealous, Chou-Chou Loving, that sort of thing... It'd be fun! =D

[vampko]

Like I said before, I'm happy that it's just a title change. No big deal really. The personality itself is the important aspect. And I realize that Tsundere's a VERY hard word to replicate with an English word.

@Kane
those words wouldn't really work any better than Bipolar.

[Rednal]

As TV Tropes notes, Tsundere personality DOES show up in American media... we just... don't really have a word for it. XD;