Addtions to future Disgaea titles

[Chamaeleonx]

The First Thing: We really need more Disgaea, dont stop the series! =D

Probably the suggestion was made some time ago and frequently, but i want to bring it up again. I would love to see more multiplayer in Disgaea.
First over all, it would give the Status effects a real use and the elemental affinitys a use. So you might have to choose between another Stat boosting Specialists and getting some Resistance against a specific type if you couldnt beat your friend before, caused by his special mage or something. Same goes for Defense and Resitance. You could actually build a good team and play with them against other players in real fights.

That brings us to the next point:
Battles between players from all over the world, real battles through multiplayer. Im sure that is possible with the cooporation of NIS and NISA. You could fight your friend of your friendlist if he wants so. Sure the pirate data system can be kept. But you could actually control your chars you spent so much time on =).
Language would be english as world language, that would combine Europe and America in a multiplayer base, maybe even Japan. But i dont know how they can read English with our letters.

The next thing would be a system where you can upload specific Characters at any point in your game, giving other players the choice to get some extra bosses without loot or special rewards, just for the fun. Like im halfway through the game and think i want to battle a character from a friend or a guy from Japan.
Then i download the data and i can battle the AI controlled character.
Sure, there must be an information screen about the boss and you could let the level scaling, so there should be an option to choose the level you want the character to be.

What does everybody think about that?
I would love to hear your opinions and maybe it can forwarded to NIS themself! =)

Greetings, Chamaeleonx

[magnum12]

The First Thing: We really need more Disgaea, dont stop the series! =D

Probably the suggestion was made some time ago and frequently, but i want to bring it up again. I would love to see more multiplayer in Disgaea.
First over all, it would give the Status effects a real use and the elemental affinitys a use. So you might have to choose between another Stat boosting Specialists and getting some Resistance against a specific type if you couldnt beat your friend before, caused by his special mage or something. Same goes for Defense and Resitance. You could actually build a good team and play with them against other players in real fights.

Good points in theory. However, the reason status ailments don't see play is for a vastly different reason than a lack of multiplayer.

The true reason is because defense is basically useless at high level play since due to the huge bonuses to special attacks, everything dies in one hit. If multiplayer is to be viable, then the balance between offense and defense needs to be fixed, as it would become a game of merely getting the first shot in with big AOE attacks. The Pirate Tournament DLC mission exposes just how serious this problem really is. To demonstrate this point, a perfect ATK T1 mage will always one shot a perfect DEF T6 Undead Dragon. When hard counters don't work against the very thing they're supposed to counter, and from a unit in which the countered tactic is its worst stat of all things, something is fundamentally wrong with the balance.

The best way to fix this balance IMO is to nerf special progression so that each upgrade adds a flat % boost (5% boost for magic attacks, 10% for specials, resulting in a maximum bonus of 145% and 190% respectively). In essence, Disgaea should follow the way Disgaea 2 did things as that game had the best balance between offense and defense. The way things are now, the current balance of power invalidates the following gameplay features.

1. Wargear that mainly increases DEF and RES
2. Status ailments (much more efficient to just one shot everything).
3. Defensive evilities
4. Healing.
5. Classes that specialize in DEF.
6. Support characters.
7. Counters
8. EXP gained from guarding allies from AOE attacks (the character is one shoted thus doesn't gain any exp from guarding).

Okay, I'm being a bit critical, but I see it as trying to be as constructive with criticism as I can. I can see a really strong intrinsic "skeleton of balance" that as a whole has been improving nicely throughout the series, but one item is undermining the whole structure. On a side note, I'd really like to see Rank 40 Orbs, glasses, shoes, belts, and muscles. I believe it would add more variety to unit builds as it would reduce the nessecity of triple traps.

[Chamaeleonx]

I see your point and you are true. Endgame is mostly about 1-shooting the enemy. So for real multiplayer that has to be fixed or balanced.
Im wondering if Disgaea would be Disgaea then.... .
But it sounds good so far. Real Multiplayer would be great =)

[Rednal]

I just don't think that multiplayer is practical, considering Disgaea's style. ^^; Not without incredible modifications to the game engine... of the sort that would annihilate its traditionally-insane style.

[Chamaeleonx]

I love the insane style of Disgaea. Thats why i would love multiplayer with that style, seeing the characters battling themself with these insane stats, guessing if you can down them or do you need more and everything more.
Maybe it could be divided into singleplayer and multiplayer. But why shouldnt multiplayer be possible with insane stats? Its just like normal stats, but just on a higher level or "orbit" xD.

Im sure somehow you can use the Disgaea style in multiplayer. For example, in multiplayer or an multiplayer area the defensive stats, the damage calculation, gets modificated. So you could avoid 1-shooting for some point. I bet the developers could work out something that suits the insane Disgaea style.

Wouldnt it be awesome to deal a lot of dmg and heal a lot (therefore a healing reducing specialists would be good) against a friend with your chars you trained over so many weeks or months.

Maybe even lift the level up to 99999 for more HP and everything. I wouldnt mind more insane stats . The hardware should be able to do that =D.


But i surely want to keep that insane style and dont want to loose it or reduce it!

[ZekeFreek]

Let me bust out my Darcnova impression: ahem...

"This thread would be better suited in the Disgaea sub-forums".

[Chamaeleonx]

Well, would somebody read it there?
If somebody would, then please move it there. I dont think someone from NISA or NISA Forums would read through the Disgaea section in general, so i posted it here.

My bad if it was wrong, im sorry then.

[myskaros]

Well, there is a thread titled "Improvements to Disgaea 5" that's already pretty big.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7316

There's also the fact that NISA only localizes and has no influence on what N1 decides to do with their games. If someone from N1 were to come onto this forum looking for suggestions for Disgaea, I personally would expect them to check the Disgaea forums for Disgaea feedback. If you disagree, then carry on.

[Houk]

This board is more for general feedback about NIS itself, so I'm gonna go ahead and move this to the Disgaea boards. We don't do any development on our end, but you're free to continue discussing this over there.

[Rhuen]

This board is more for general feedback about NIS itself, so I'm gonna go ahead and move this to the Disgaea boards. We don't do any development on our end, but you're free to continue discussing this over there.

We already have a thread like this here. Granted its things you'd like to see in Disgaea 5. But for now that is the future of the series.

[ZekeFreek]

We already have a thread like this here. Granted its things you'd like to see in Disgaea 5. But for now that is the future of the series.

THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE IN D4 VITA!

Emizel and Axel Mode.

[AsukaNeumaki]

I want to see a Nemo Mode where you play through till Nemo's death.

[Chamaeleonx]

Im sorry for the missposting. Of course for the next Disgaea, which i will buy for 100% if it doesnt really suck and loose the spirit of the series. But i highly doubt that .

Well, what about if all the suggested things get forwarded to NIS itself? Maybe someone can translate them or such. That would be interessting and cool =).

[ZekeFreek]

Im sorry for the missposting. Of course for the next Disgaea, which i will buy for 100% if it doesnt really suck and loose the spirit of the series. But i highly doubt that .

Well, what about if all the suggested things get forwarded to NIS itself? Maybe someone can translate them or such. That would be interessting and cool =).

I'm pretty sure whatever planning in set in stone.

[Chamaeleonx]

I always wanted to have an Angel with a Scythe.., but sadly that isnt the max tier weapon. So i want changing the colour and style of the weapons too as i can for the character tiers. Same as you can do in Cladun :3.
For example, i would love to see Fuka without her hat, so i can change it whenever i want. As a huge fan of the series i would even pay for new outfits if they are really nice and match my taste .

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9822&p=475425#p475425

So vote for weapon transformation like you can change the colour of your characters and for custom skins! =D