If the 360 has more RPGs then I suppose it makes sense. However, PS3 will likely have quality over quantity. With the price dropping as time passes, it's only a matter of time before the PS3 becomes the Grungust Nishiki M of consoles.
Conjecture is a wonderful thing. The things that dreams are made of, though often of late just made up of said dreams. The problem is we're stating the facts and theories on TODAYS situation, not what might be in a few years. And even more frustrating is the fact that the PS3 is HOW far into it's 10 year cycle and has yet to deliver on the majority of it's lofty promises.
The PS3 will be stronger than the Gespenst Mk-II (PS2) and developing numerous games of a higher quality for it will become a far better business strategy as a lower price will attract more buyers like the smart consumer who held off on buying the console until it didn't cost an arm and a leg. The PS3 will become the next PS2 when the price drops $100-$150 and they start providing 100% backwards compatibility to compete with the Wii’s 100% backwards compatibility.
Again, this has to do with much further down the line when they are already putting the last touches on their next console, so the PS3 will no longer be the "next gen console of choice" for anyone. Not to mention that Sony will STILL, as has been the case from the beginning, not be making money off the actual sale of their system, as they are forced to lower the price consistently in order to compete with the MUCH more realistically priced (due to their lower cost in production) competitors.
Of course, that’s only enough for developers. Once the developers hop on board the Cheap Awesome Console Express and start providing it with a worthwhile library of games, the fans will follow suit and BUY BABY BUY!
THIS comment actually makes sense. Or would if you knew how difficult it actually is to develop on the TOTALLY different kind of setup the PS3 has (I apologize if you were aware of this). You see, for over a decade people have been programming for the PowerPC platform that every console was based off of post the 16-bit era. The issue in question comes from the Cel processor itself and the Flex I/O's and any number of architectural differences and challenges that the PS3 platform represents. Basically, it means people have to be trained on the knew platforms, development which has been streamlined over many console generations has to b thrown out the door, and new processes have to be configured.
Basically, it'll take more TIME. And THAT's pretty much the main reason why the PS3 has been lacking, hasn't it?
Too long for Exclusives to come out.
Too long for those niche RPG titles to appear.
Too long for Home to appear.
Just Too long, while your competitors are raging full steam ahead on more quality exclusives than the ps3 exclusives can simply keep up with. Namely the XB360, as I'm pretty much out of touch with the Wii once I sold it after being fed up with the mountain of not very satisfying games (for me) though they definitely sell well.
That said I think NISA really underestimates the amount of people who own a 360 and would play the games in question.
Something’s not right here…
That said I think NISA really underestimates the amount of people who own a PS2 and would play the games in question.
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Before people start complaining about how undervalued the 360 consumer base is, there’s a couple niche games for the PS2 called Super Robot Taisen Original Generations and Super Robot Taisen Original Generation Gaiden that have yet to be localized. Yo noexcusepunk, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish but the PS2 is the best selling console of all time. The best selling console of all time! That’s why our consumer base is far more undervalued at this point.
I ... see. So, putting aside that I've never said ANYTHING about the PS2 NOT being one of the highest selling consoles of all time, and not even really mentioning that I'm a happy ps2 and frustrated ps3 owner myself (bought one off a friend recently for $180 because he got tired of the lack of RPG titles, ironically enough), what relevance does this have with my show and tell whatsoever?
Heck, you 360 guys even got Zoids Assault. It’s not a good game. It didn’t sell well.
This is usually here you post the, you know, link to proof. Don't worry, "Imma gonna let you finish".
If you still want to talk about how the amount of people who own a 360 is underestimated, take a ticket and stand in line. It’ll be a bit of a wait, though. There are four fanbases ahead of you guys who have their own beef with the industry writing them off at times: Playstation 2, Nintendo DS, Wii and Playstation Portable.
Stop right there. Go online, do a simple search, and pull up PS2, DS, and PSP RPG titles, then hopfully your hopes will be lifted. Because there are FAR MORE RPG's for all of those consoles than on the 360 and PS3.
Simple fact. That's a lot of charts to pull up, so I'll trust you to do the search yourself instead of posting it. That's what Google is for.
Of course, fans supporting niche titles for other fans is a matter of courtesy. HOWEVER! It’s a courtesy given to those with the courtesy to wait their turn before crying UNDERVALUED. If NISA isn’t releasing titles for the 360, aside from the TBA Cross Edge Dash on GameFAQs, it’s because the 360 isn’t very popular in Japan nor is it that popular in America.
Actually ,the WII is king in both countries, and next in line is DS, PSP, 360 and then ps3 in America; DS, PSP, PS3, and then 360 in Japan. The last two can be seen for example in my previous post in terms of sales on RPG's however, and why there are more sold on 360.
There may be a few niche games here and there worth localizing, but they can wait until the more undervalued consumer bases are appeased. Until then, asking why NISA isn’t localizing games on a console dominated by and popular among fans of shooters and sports does little more than display a lack of awareness regarding what kind of console the 360 is. If it’s niche games and an abundance of quality JRPGs you want, then the PS3 is a better choice because it will eventually succeed the PS2.
Right, again with the time issue, and yet right now the 360 has shown that NOT to be the case, in both sales in Japan and in America FOR THE SAME GAMES. Or did you NOT read my previous post or look at the examples?
Do you have sources for this? I was hoping you would provide some as I have.
Here's some for American Console sales: http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1= ... &weeks=156
And of Course Japan:http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1= ... &weeks=156
What you'll see is the same as I said above a few lines back.
This will be more evident when the price tag drops a bit more and developers start making more good JRPG and niche games for it. Ar Tonelico III and Star Ocean 4 are already coming out soon. They’re the first of many that will come later on. Heck, Japan has’t written off the PS2 at all. They’re still releasing games for it, and some good niche games may still come out for the highest selling console of all time. The highest selling console of all time!
Thing is, is that Ar tonelico III is one heck of a niche title. Due to limited funds, it will appear on one console. However, to maximize their profit from their niche market, of which I clearly showed was in more abundance on the 360, would also be wise once they gain what I'm sure we all hope to be a great success on the PS3. Star Ocean 4 is coming to ps3 because it did well on the 360 for the niche game it was, and they felt the lower number of people on ps3 would be worth a port, adding in a few extras and then calling it a day, because they wanted to maximize their earnings and audience. This was said in an interview I believe, though I lament I can not find the source, so I can't really call it a fact.
The PS2 is still running strong, I don't think anyone can deny that, and I hope to see more localizations for it as well. And I really do hope that the PS3 get's it's day in the sun to finally appear. But with it's current state of affairs, Sony is really in trouble. They really need the PS3 to start selling more.
It already has picked up a bit, but needs much more to cover the amount of money they have lost on the console already.
You do know the Sony North American CEO resigned right after the "Missteps" of the PS3 launch and the then after problems, right?
Source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/131259/h ... signs.html
IT is speculated that it was also due to other reasons, though nothing can be made concrete.