Warning about DCL

[Moerdigan]

I have been seeing the overall opinion on DLC in the internet and press and it looks like in general, people are losing patients over the whole idea.

I love the Disgaea series so much that I'm will likely pay towards the DLC for the fourth game, but it's really wearing on me (have decided not to pay DLC for other games I bought this year). if you do DLC, It should really be like an even with with lot of features release at one or two times instead if very little features released every 2 weeks. I think everyone will feel less nickel and diming if you do it that way.

Nis hasn't being practicing this, but there been a growing trend of game-of-the-year-additions of games that have all the original game and DLC on disk. I honestly would prefer buying these versions except for the fact that I'd have to wait at least a year after the original release version.

I find Nis to be a great company. You guys really listen to your fans, which is why felt it wouldn't be a waste of time to give you my 2 cents right now. Thanks!

[Tiredman]

Yes, dlc is getting out of control. When you are charged 99 cents for something that took somebody an hour or less to make, and they put 50 of those up for sell, well it is ridiculous. If I want glasses on a toon in game, i would see paying 10 cents for it, maybe, but not 99 cents. If extra characters are released, I have no problem paying a buck for them, but too many games, including those released by NISA, ask for 3+ dollars for characters that are usually copy and pastes with minor tweaks from other games those characters starred in.

Pricing is way off for a lot of games, as they just try to milk players for everything that they can get. That point of a 99 cent item that probably took somebody an hour to make is a good example. If that company spent an hour to make an item then put is up for sell for 99 cents, and they sell 100, they made an extra chunk of change after fee's are taken out, so I am sure they think that hour was well worth it. If they would price the item at 10 cents, sure they may only make less cash off it, but at least they are making their fans happy with new stuff, instead of just the few who don't mind blowing an extra 60 bucks on a 60 dollar game. I don't mind buying correctly priced dlc, but I will never touch dlc that I feel is overpriced.

Case in point, disgaea 3 was way overdone in dlc. And in order to get all the dlc, you basically had to pay for the game twice. I am sure disgaea 4 will be the same, because companies don't see us as players, they see us as cows. I didn't buy the Neptunia dlc characters because I did not appreciate having them paraded in front of my face with guest on their portraits until I paid cash for them.

I can't wait till dlc calms down and finds a happy medium that will make most fans happy.

[Bacon Macho]

All the DLCs I want for every game is to make ninja. Specially for Call of Duty games. There my favorite.

[Tiredman]

I already made up my mind regarding dlc, I won't buy any what I consider high priced dlc anymore. I will wait for game of the year editions of the popular games I want dlc for, like I just recently got goty borderlands from gamestop, new, for $20 due to their current sale. At least this gives me the dlc on a disc and I can play it 15 years from now when xbox live and psn are scrapped for something else so sony, microsoft, and all these other companies can force us to buy the games we already owned, which has already happened with the ps3's backwards compatibility for ps2 games.

DLC is smart, if done in small pieces at reasonable prices. Too many companies are jumping the gun, which I label disgaea 3, and probably 4, as part of the bunch. I lost a good chunk of respect for NIS when I saw the dlc for disgaea 3. Lots of stuff I would of loved to have, but I would of been forced to pay an obscene amount of cash for so little. They should not be charging 3+ dollars per new character, they should offer 4 character packs for 5 bucks, but nope, they prefer the 600 sells at 3 bucks per individual character versus the 10000 sells at 4 for $5. My reasoning behind those numbers is due to value. If people see a 4 character set for 5 bucks, many people will see that as a steal, and snag it, where as seeing those 4 characters at 3 bucks each leaves people buying 1 character, if not outright ignoring the dlc due to feeling the price is way too high for what little you get.

People say the reason prices are that high, is because the character was made post game release and has to be downloaded, or something like that. Problem behind that reasoning is why does that make the character worth 3 bucks instead of 1? At either price point, I guarantee you companies see their money back and then a large amount more, the only difference is between letting 3 percent or 20 percent of your player base experience the dlc. I would like to think companies think of me as a valuable partner, somebody who will buy and appreciate their products and support them, but instead companies, including NIS, view us all as cow's to be milked. So I will wait and see if their dlc ever gets a discount by at least 50 percent, then I will snag some of the items I consider to finally be in the enjoyable price range that doesn't make me feel like a cow. If their dlc never gets a discount, then I will do without. As I read, in Japan their new characters are going for over $3 save for one that is being sold for disaster relief donation cash. My view on those $3 characters, no thanks. Those of you who support the high priced dlc, have fun.


PS. I am not anti NIS, I just don't like current dlc practices. I will continue to buy the games, I just won't touch dlc until it gets discounted majorly.

[KuraiDemon]

I already made up my mind regarding dlc, I won't buy any what I consider high priced dlc anymore. I will wait for game of the year editions of the popular games I want dlc for, like I just recently got goty borderlands from gamestop, new, for $20 due to their current sale. At least this gives me the dlc on a disc and I can play it 15 years from now when xbox live and psn are scrapped for something else so sony, microsoft, and all these other companies can force us to buy the games we already owned, which has already happened with the ps3's backwards compatibility for ps2 games.

DLC is smart, if done in small pieces at reasonable prices. Too many companies are jumping the gun, which I label disgaea 3, and probably 4, as part of the bunch. I lost a good chunk of respect for NIS when I saw the dlc for disgaea 3. Lots of stuff I would of loved to have, but I would of been forced to pay an obscene amount of cash for so little. They should not be charging 3+ dollars per new character, they should offer 4 character packs for 5 bucks, but nope, they prefer the 600 sells at 3 bucks per individual character versus the 10000 sells at 4 for $5. My reasoning behind those numbers is due to value. If people see a 4 character set for 5 bucks, many people will see that as a steal, and snag it, where as seeing those 4 characters at 3 bucks each leaves people buying 1 character, if not outright ignoring the dlc due to feeling the price is way too high for what little you get.

People say the reason prices are that high, is because the character was made post game release and has to be downloaded, or something like that. Problem behind that reasoning is why does that make the character worth 3 bucks instead of 1? At either price point, I guarantee you companies see their money back and then a large amount more, the only difference is between letting 3 percent or 20 percent of your player base experience the dlc. I would like to think companies think of me as a valuable partner, somebody who will buy and appreciate their products and support them, but instead companies, including NIS, view us all as cow's to be milked. So I will wait and see if their dlc ever gets a discount by at least 50 percent, then I will snag some of the items I consider to finally be in the enjoyable price range that doesn't make me feel like a cow. If their dlc never gets a discount, then I will do without. As I read, in Japan their new characters are going for over $3 save for one that is being sold for disaster relief donation cash. My view on those $3 characters, no thanks. Those of you who support the high priced dlc, have fun.


PS. I am not anti NIS, I just don't like current dlc practices. I will continue to buy the games, I just won't touch dlc until it gets discounted majorly.

I guess I could see what you all are talking about, but at the same time I guess I just don't see it that way. You can call me a fool or an idiot all you want, but my opinion is not going to change. Sure, some companies do try and rip you off when it comes to the dlcs. I think that NISA tries to make the prices on its dlcs for their games as reasonable as possible. Sure, I won't argue that the Disgeae 3 dlc packet is a little bit high, but yet it is so worth the money. When I see something that I want. I don't just say its to high and give up on it. Nope, I work on getting it. It took me somewhere around eight months before I had the money to get the dlc, but it was worth the wait. In all honest truth I wanted to get it the first time I saw it, but knew I had to wait to get the money. I mean I pay bills just like everyone else, too. When I did finally got the dlc for Disgaea 3. I don't regret spending my money on it and I also think that the wait did me some good, too. Yeah, it is just my opinion against yours, but I thought you all should know what I thought.

[betaflame]

I avoid DLC like the plague unless it's the classic purpose, which is content made after the game was released and unrelated to the main plot.

I've bought exactly 2 pieces of DLC in my entire life:

1) Valkyria Chronicles EX-hard/Selvaria/Edy detachment set at 40% off
2) AT3 Binary Field set

That's it, I have Disgaea 3, but haven't played it and lol paying that much for DLC.