Seventh wrote:I purposely didn't talk about this situation because that's more opinion based (whether you like this character and so on and so forth). I could talk about my opinion of the situation, but I don't think that would be productive.
No, it's really not opinion-based. I am trying to bring up a discussion of what the game did to make up for what Mondo had done. Because, as i saw it, the game didn't make much effort at all. Which isn't a bad thing, it's just a note of how they're doing their story.
Seventh wrote:I will say though that you're still doing it - I I I. It's not about what you did or I did, it's about what Mondo did. When you're a gang leader who had a brother sacrifice himself for you and are trapped in a school and all of that other stuff, then you can say what you would do in his situation. Until you've lived someone else's life, though, you can't. You can speak generally, sure, and I think you are (which is my point) - you think you would never kill someone - but that's not applicable to this specific case or any other, just what you would think you would do... which no, you don't know, because you've yet to live it - and hopefully you never do.
I would never be a bike gang leader...So that's really moot. You're still concentrating on the wrong thing.
Seventh wrote:When I brought up Byakuya, in any case, I was referring to how you were belittling Mondo/his secret/the situation and talking about what you would do. You're not Mondo, so what you would do is... kind of irrelevant, and the game tries to make this clear repeatedly, starting here. Even if you wouldn't ever kill someone, that doesn't really mean anything if your next door neighbor loves cutting people up. You can try to understand it, say "if it were you" all you want, but it won't get anywhere.
I said that for a reason why I didn't really like Mondo, but that didn't apply to my main point.
Seventh wrote:In regards to this specific situation, again, that's just opinions again. I found Mondo to be a compelling and likable character and I found his story quite tragic. He was nice and he was sympathetic, and I don't really see friendship as entirely being a joke, even if it's played for laughs. You disagree, but I'm not going to push that. If you don't like Mondo, in my book, that's your loss - and you might not think so, but that's fine too.
Yeah, I don't think we'll really agree on that. I've found "manly bonding" to be a silly thing in most cases.
Mirai wrote:"Actions speak louder than words." unfortunately (this includes everyone not just you) you can say all sorts of things you might and might not do in that situation but you'd never know unless you actually were put into the same situation as DR cast. When people are pushed back into a corner they become a very different person and this is just one of many things DR points out, in particular with the 1st case.
I wouldn't magically have a memory, or lose my clumsiness. I've been in a "life/death" situation (in my perspective it was anyway) and my first thought was getting help for the others, and I completely ignored how bad I was. It's not the exact same thing, but it is close. Yes, i couldn't know exactly how I would react, but I have a pretty good idea. I'd probably die the first day, because I'd forget a rule and get shot
A lot of people don't realize how bad my memory is.
Mirai wrote:In regards to your view on murder, well you'd get along just fine with one of the characters in SDR2 that's for sure.
Woohoo! Can't wait!
Mirai wrote:With Mondo what he did was wrong and there's no denying that, but at the very least he, himself regrets what he has done and believes he needs to atone for it, which is why he willingly accepted his punishment, unlike Leon who was screaming the whole time. That's why I have some respect for Mondo as he is truly sorry for what he did.
this is something which I didn't really think that much about, so I will say that it does seem that the game made some effort to "redeem" Mondo for what he had done. About as much as was made for Sayaka. I wonder if the game will ever go to much further lengths?