Surge Concerto: Ciel's Surge (Vita)

[Mlada]

It's not official that this is meant to be directly from the Ar tonelico series, is it? Sure, there are a lot of similarities, but I haven't seen it officially said it's of the same world either. So if I were you guys, I wouldn't be hoping for this being related to the series too much. My guess is Tecmo-Koei wanted something like Ar tonelico in a genre they preferred (DLC-based game), while Gust didn't completely want to lump this with Ar tonelico either.

[vampko]

Ar tonelico was jointly developed with Bandai, so Bandai held some of the rights for those games, so Gust had to make it a different series to be able to continue making it since they're with Tecmo Koei now. But, that's just deductive reasoning, and it's not necessarily the correct conclusion. It's just a hypothesis of mine really.

[machinemaiden]

Personally, the game play looks awesome to me it's just it's chances of localization that scare me. Like, a lot. Usually with more then one company involved the chances become lower but by God, I will keep pushing for this!! The beautiful artwork is one of the main reason that pulled me in, I must say.

Only regret is you can't chose a guy to raise/hang out with. Hey, I'm flexible though. Ion is adorable and I love fairies, squeeeee~

[Mlada]

Ar tonelico was jointly developed with Bandai, so Bandai held some of the rights for those games, so Gust had to make it a different series to be able to continue making it since they're with Tecmo Koei now. But, that's just deductive reasoning, and it's not necessarily the correct conclusion. It's just a hypothesis of mine really.

But I thought Gust was the sole developer for all of them with the exception of Qoga where it was with Banpresto. I gathered that publishers play no part in rights (which I thought was Bandai's only role, unless they own Banpresto, which I admit, I don't know anything about that so I am ignorant about that issue)? That said, Banpresto did develop Qoga, but just because of that, they don't own rights to the entire series, do they? I'm honestly asking this, not disputing anything. Because the theory of them wanting to use the world but having to tip-toe around copyrighted names would make sense too...

[vampko]

Ar tonelico was jointly developed with Bandai, so Bandai held some of the rights for those games, so Gust had to make it a different series to be able to continue making it since they're with Tecmo Koei now. But, that's just deductive reasoning, and it's not necessarily the correct conclusion. It's just a hypothesis of mine really.

But I thought Gust was the sole developer for all of them with the exception of Qoga where it was with Banpresto. I gathered that publishers play no part in rights (which I thought was Bandai's only role, unless they own Banpresto, which I admit, I don't know anything about that so I am ignorant about that issue)? That said, Banpresto did develop Qoga, but just because of that, they don't own rights to the entire series, do they? I'm honestly asking this, not disputing anything. Because the theory of them wanting to use the world but having to tip-toe around copyrighted names would make sense too...

That's exactly how it works, even if they were just a publisher in that country. They would get some rights to the game for that country. considering Banpresto (yes, owned by Bandai) co-developed Qoga, yes, they most definitely cannot use that world unless they are able to buy the rights back.

So, this is most likely them tip-toeing around the copyright issues.

[lordryo]

Well, there's some nice Ion fanart floating around the net, Ive stumbled across some myself and am kind enough to share with you.

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[machinemaiden]

Well, there's some nice Ion fanart floating around the net, Ive stumbled across some myself and am kind enough to share with you.

Spoiler:

Your killing me, killing me! More pictures and stuff I see the more I want it! T^T I swear by all that is holy NISA that if (praying that's a when) you localize it and make a limited edition version I will pre-order it day one! Heck even the normal version I will!

[lordryo]

Yeah, I would really pay for each DLC chapter in a localized version. It's the cost and inability to actually play them in a imported copy that keeps me from really caring about this game. I still intend to import it, but I'm unsure of how much fun I'll have playing only a portion of the game.

[LAMV]

Oh god, all those Ion fanarts, my heart can't take it!

[lordryo]

Yes, fall victim to Ion's kawaiiness!

[Mlada]

That's exactly how it works, even if they were just a publisher in that country. They would get some rights to the game for that country. considering Banpresto (yes, owned by Bandai) co-developed Qoga, yes, they most definitely cannot use that world unless they are able to buy the rights back.

So, this is most likely them tip-toeing around the copyright issues.

My thought process though was that the publisher only had rights to the individual game, not the actual series itself. But with Banpresto owning a portion of Qoga itself, I don't know if that just means they own that title alone or they came to an agreement that they now own half of the series from that game and any future games...

I'm not doubting you any though, because like I said, it makes sense.

[Netherworld's Light]

Here is a new trailer featuring the awesome singing of Akiko Shikata. http://andriasang.com/con0br/surge_concert_pv/

[machinemaiden]

Le'sigh. Every new bit of info/vids/pics makes me want it more and more ...and realize more and more it will never be localized...

..Prove me wrong NISA, by all that is holy, I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG!

[Netherworld's Light]

I'm going have to get the soundtrack so I can enjoy the music even if the game doesn't make it over here.

I think the best chances for localization is if the publisher(Nisa or whoever) takes the monthly chapter dlc and rolls them into the main game before release. The monthly chapter dlc as in Japan won't go over well with the expectations of a complete game on release and the controversy over dlc in general.

[lordryo]

Just imagine how bitchin' this game would be if it had been some sort of JRPG. *sigh* Anyways, a lot of companies in America profit well off of DLC. So the idea of an entire DLC based game doesn't sound too absurd in the hands of a company looking to, well, make money. Plus, if the right company got a hold of it, like, I don't know; say NISA, it probably wouldn't be handled poorly. I think if done right, this game, or any game of it's type, could do well enough to warrant its own localization.