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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Wrath » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:57 am

Welllll I just pre orderd this...Gungnir on the otherhand is not verry appealing to me so I think i'll overlook that for now.....realy off topic I went on a mad pre order shopping spree today Xenoblade chronicles,the last storey...amazon even has a P4 arena pre order up wich kinda surprised me since the game itself is quite a ways off I think no? I realy need to buy a wii befor I get the games though....
As for this game Growlanser I have to admit after reading about the series I went off and bought the games previously released ....
So many games so little time ...
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby daveyd » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:47 pm

Wrath wrote:Welllll I just pre orderd this...Gungnir on the otherhand is not verry appealing to me so I think i'll overlook that for now.....realy off topic I went on a mad pre order shopping spree today Xenoblade chronicles,the last storey...amazon even has a P4 arena pre order up wich kinda surprised me since the game itself is quite a ways off I think no? I realy need to buy a wii befor I get the games though....
As for this game Growlanser I have to admit after reading about the series I went off and bought the games previously released ....
So many games so little time ...


Wise choice. I hope you like Growlanser. I really can't imagine anyone who likes RPGs not liking this series as it has all of the things good RPGs should have: interesting story, great battle system, romance / relationship building, and some choices that actually have consequences in the game.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Wrath » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:09 pm

I think i'll like it:)
Im just a late bloomer towards alot of games I stuck with a few core series for so long I kinda avoided alot of realy good games in the process so now im catching up. Finding the time on the otherhand....
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:45 pm

growlanser and gungir are 2 very different types of japanese rpgs


one is more of the tactical variety

the other is more of the strategy variety
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby daveyd » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:04 pm

stealth20k wrote:growlanser and gungir are 2 very different types of japanese rpgs


one is more of the tactical variety

the other is more of the strategy variety


A lot of gamers use the terms tactical and strategy interchangeably. For instance, wikipeida redirects to tactical RPG when you search for strategy RPG. Could you explain what you mean by that distinction?
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:58 pm

daveyd wrote:
stealth20k wrote:growlanser and gungir are 2 very different types of japanese rpgs


one is more of the tactical variety

the other is more of the strategy variety


A lot of gamers use the terms tactical and strategy interchangeably. For instance, wikipeida redirects to tactical RPG when you search for strategy RPG. Could you explain what you mean by that distinction?


Yes alot of gamers do do that. Incorrectly.

A strategy rpg historically is pure grid. And movement is defined by square grid pieces


a tactical rpg is free roam where you stop at certain points on a map

for example if we were being nit picky

valkyria would be a tactical rpg series, agarest 2 is kinda there too
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Daverost » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:04 am

They're both the same kind of game. You're just nitpicking whether movement range is limited by a tile count on a grid or by distance in a circle.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:14 am

Daverost wrote:They're both the same kind of game. You're just nitpicking whether movement range is limited by a tile count on a grid or by distance in a circle.



I am not the one who created the definitions

Thats why most historical sites write S/T rpg because it is true they are very similar. But they are a different sub sub genre really


personally I dont care. But I like to see both kinds represented
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Clephas » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:41 pm

The funny thing is that when it comes down to it, they are both just types of tactical games... I don't think there is such a thing as a true strategy-rpg... Well, I guess that Generations of Chaos and Dragon Force count, but they are definitely rare.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:08 pm

Clephas wrote:The funny thing is that when it comes down to it, they are both just types of tactical games... I don't think there is such a thing as a true strategy-rpg... Well, I guess that Generations of Chaos and Dragon Force count, but they are definitely rare.



strategy rpgs really started with fire emblem

and tactical started with lagrisser ( or however you spell that)
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Clephas » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:45 am

Langrisser is closer to a true strategy rpg than a tactical rpg, if you understand the difference between the two words... tactics exist as a part of strategy... or rather I should say that tactical decisions exist as tools for use in the making of strategic decisions. Say your goal is to take a fort. A tactic would be using a catapult to smash through the walls, but that is in the end only one part of the actual plan for taking the fort which would be considered the 'strategy'. A 'strategic' rpg generally has 'conquest' elements... meaning taking cities and towns, exhausting enemy resources, and the like. The Ogre battle series is also strategic in nature... or at least, the main series is. In order to win the battles in that game, it was necessary to decide whether you were going to take the towns along the way, conquering an area piece by piece, or smash through the enemy forces headlong to take the capitol city in order to take victory on the battlefield. That kind of flow is characteristic of 'pure' strategy rpgs, whereas ones like FFT would be considered 'tactical' srpgs going by definition.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:52 am

Are we really arguing over this?
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Shizuka » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:54 am

Trust me, after I was attacked when I mentioned that Tales was kinda action-RPG, I gave up on debating genres with people here.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:57 am

i am pretty much done with this one myself. Theres a distinction, thats it
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby kratoscar2008 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:09 am

Lets leave it as that becuase that takes us nowhere.
Is like the rpgs genre especially Jrpgs: Since most jrpgs give you characters already defined living you witouth a "role" to fullfill in the actual game.

We love jrpgs Not proper rpgs.
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