Rate Your RPG powerhouses this gen

[stealth20k]

falcom should of been on my list

[Prinapocalypse]

Square-Enix
Falcom
NIS

[ZetaBladeX13]

I'm totally stoked for the Ys IV remake. and make some TitS action too if we're lucky.


"people: Pure, and generally intelligent"
I wish. Then Capcom would release MML3, Sonic team would make a good game, and FFXIII wouldn't be so terrible.

The "facts" I was referring to were the reviews, not the general consensus (opinions) of Qoga being terrible. It was just easier to mention the metacritic since they also have links to the many reviews it received from various sites.

--oh, mailman's here......XD
*comes back*

Anyway, I do respect your opinion. I'm not trying to say "hurrdurr I think this game is terrible, so there is no way anyone thinks otherwise"

Because we can go that route, and suddenly the fate of role-playing games is not so bright and sunflowery when they're bludgeoned by less creative but better marketed titles with higher production value.

It should be obvious from my avid devotion to Falcom, but I'd be the first to complain about masterfully crafted RPGs from small devs being overshadowed by less creative, more heavily marketed games. So I have no argument there.




also, the two PSVitas I ordered came in.

See, Zeta: I don't mind this. You dislike the game, and I'm absolutely fine with that.

But let's be serious: I cannot see how reviews are no less subjective (aggregate or not) than opinions when it comes to video games or any form of entertainment media. Because that's what they are. They're bloated opinions renamed "reviews" by journalists.

I mean, Persona 4 was reproached merely for being a PS2 game (Game Informer). NieR was discredited by a guy who couldn't figure out that the "x" on your screen is an objective marker (1UP or Joystiq). Neptunia was lambasted by someone who had 3 or 4% trophies in the game (Destructoid). There's an article on Kotaku claiming all the (well-scored) newer Zelda games are shit. In her "Wot I Think" of Katawa Shoujo, Leigh Alexander said, "Whether your reason for playing a disabled girl dating sim is you like dating sim stories, you like sex games, or you like disabled girls, you will not be salved. There is absolutely nothing pleasurable or compelling about Katawa Shoujo, save for the fact it exists." (Rock Paper Shotgun)

I'm not defending Ar tonelico Qoga. Hate it. I just cannot believe that these people, being journalists, are somehow supernatural folk whose word is objective and categorical.

You obviously agree that these scores are subject to more factors than simply whether the game is universally good or bad... so I guess that'll have to be our middle ground.

Wrt Ys: I actually haven't played any since OiF for PC. Man, it's been a while.

At least you didn't mention some of IGN's god awful reviewers. We'd have a lot of material to cover if that were the case

So... what exactly were we arguing about if we shared the same opinion of the game?

[SaturnineTenshi]

Sorry, that was me telling you to hate it.

[stealth20k]

reviews stink we all know this

[vampko]

Sorry, that was me telling you to hate it.

....then why'd you vote it for game of the year?

I'm getting really confused here now.

[SaturnineTenshi]

If he thinks the game is terrible, who am I to tell him otherwise?

[vampko]

Oh, I see the problem. That was pretty confusing. Well, yeah, it's easily a person's right to hate a game. I agree with you on that 100%.

It just sounded like, with your wording, that you were saying you hated the game.

[ZetaBladeX13]

So, then... the argument ended in a "everyone is entitled to their own opinion"?

If so, I am no longer confused.

[SinZinDetta]

Publishing or developing is fine.

On a 1 - 10 scale

1. Nintendo - 0 - That would mean I would have to have a Wii...yeah did, hell no again.
2. Namco - 9 - Tales and Magna Carta 2 were awesome
3. Square - 7 - Final Fantasy XIII-2 was great however Infinite Undiscovery, Final Fantasy XIII and Last Remnant were ok
4. Atlus - 0 - Done nothing for me this gen so far
5. Mistwalker - 5 - Lost Odyssey was outstanding however jump to Wii gets them points lost
6. Bioware and Bethesda - 11 - Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout, Skyrim, heck I would choose this over the other 9 combined. Easy reason why JRPG games are weak nowadays
7. Sega - 9 - Alpha Protocol was amazing. Resonance of Fate and Valkyria was also strong
8. Konami - 0 - Done nothing for me this gen so far
9. NIS - 1 - Ar tonelico got them a one. Everything else from them sucked in my opinion. Cross Edge, Last Rebellion and Atelier games are some of the worse RPG games I have every played in my long gaming life. To bad Sakura Wars was last gen, could of helped
10. Level 5 - 0 - White Knight sucked. Boring dull game with the nerve to not even finish the story in one. Story sucked anyway so I never even finished it in 2. Ugh the multiplayer made me want to hang myself.

[stealth20k]

first time Ive seen anyone say alpha protocol was good

[SinZinDetta]

first time Ive seen anyone say alpha protocol was good

Wasn't good. Was outstanding. I would give it a 9.5 or 10 out of 10. Combat is ok and what critics trashed it on however the story was brilliant. I have played through four times and each time I had very different things happen each playthrough one being a entire different ending boss. RPG is about story first and foremost to me and that game delivered.

[stealth20k]

if you like it I guess thats all that matters

when I think of sega and there rpg work

I think of shiren 1, valkyria 1,2,3, shining force feathers, shining blade, phantasy star portable 1,2, destruction, and other things

[ZetaBladeX13]

if you like it I guess thats all that matters

when I think of sega and there rpg work

I think of shiren 1, valkyria 1,2,3, shining force feathers, shining blade, phantasy star portable 1,2, destruction, and other things

Phantasy Star Online 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stealth20k]

ywp