Japanese Arrogance going to sink Nintendo as a console maker

[stealth20k]

And yes, there is the valid power isn't everything argument. Though technological advancement is something that should be pushed for, not avoided.

pushed for until costs become so outrageous the industry is in serious jeopardy of dissapearing and then you just have to stop

Nothing is in serious jeopardy of disappearing. Hold on while I go wrestle the aliens sitting outside your window into submission. Current-generation platforms are very far behind current technology. And the severe cost of manufacturing "AAA" titles has little to do with the hardware. New hardware would make it easier for companies to meet current graphical demands instead of trying to weasel what they can out of hardware.

I suppose we should stop all technological progression in fear of the Earth's rotation coming to a halt.

If you read some of the game industry financials I did, you might not be so sure and you might not be so confident............

when we are all playing games on smart devices and portables, youll see

[Venus]

all are examples of systems that were released during a time more powerful competitors were out there.

The Super Nintendo was more powerful then the Sega Genesis.

it was not. but thats a debate thats been going on since those days

Well it's debatable...I just think it was. I was never sold on the whole blast processing thing.

[SaturnineTenshi]

@Stealth: Because you're the only one who can read, and the only one with access to this super-secret market data.

[Venus]

@Stealth: Because you're the only one who can read.

Of course.

[stealth20k]

@Stealth: Because you're the only one who can read, and the only one with access to this super-secret market data.

I didnt say that but have you read how bad the industry is doing?

[SaturnineTenshi]

Markets aren't stationary things. They go up and down and grind and gyrate reverse-cowgirl/boy. I'm not an end-times theorist is all. I'm well aware of how well the mobile market is doing. Intimately aware, you might say. Personally aware.

It's easy to hop on the Android or iPhone marketplaces and make a quick buck with minimal (comparatively) losses and a wide audience. That's because it's still something that's new and booming. Like any new market, though, it will eventually plateau. That doesn't mean the markets that aren't doing so well are going to collapse or implode. The games industry is, and has been, a very volatile thing. That's all.

[stealth20k]

the problem with the genesis is people just gave up on it even though I think technically it could do more, most devs just didnt care

[stealth20k]

Markets aren't stationary things. They go up and down and grind and gyrate reverse-cowgirl/boy. I'm not an end-times theorist is all. I'm well aware of how well the mobile market is doing. Intimately aware, you might say. Personally aware.

It's easy to hop on the Android or iPhone marketplaces and make a quick buck with minimal (comparatively) losses and a wide audience. That's because it's still something that's new and booming. Like any new market, though, it will eventually plateau. That doesn't mean the markets that aren't doing so well are going to collapse or implode. The games industry is, and has been, a very volatile thing. That's all.

its less about how well the mobile market is doing, and how crappy everything else is doing

[SaturnineTenshi]

the problem with the genesis is people just gave up on it even though I think technically it could do more, most devs just didnt care

I really disliked the Genesis' controllers. They were friggin' horrible, and the buttons always had problems. SNES was lovely, though.

[stealth20k]

the problem with the genesis is people just gave up on it even though I think technically it could do more, most devs just didnt care

I really disliked the Genesis' controllers. They were friggin' horrible, and the buttons always had problems. SNES was lovely, though.

well there was that too..............

even though the sega genesis sales were very very close to the snes, software sales it wasnt even in the same universe

[Otaku916]

the problem with the genesis is people just gave up on it even though I think technically it could do more, most devs just didnt care

Genesis's main problem were:

1. On screen colors and total palette was far less than the SNES. IIRC the Genesis only had 256 max colors on screen at once and the SNES had 32k with transparency effects. The SNES looked **MUCH** better than the genesis although there were some genesis games that looked quite good. Also snes had mode7.

2. The genesis used a cheap piece of shit FM synthesis chip for it's music while the SNES used a high quality wavetable type chip. FM synth is very hard to program correct so must genesis games sounded like shit.

3. SNES I believe had over double the max cart size.

4. Sega sinked too much money into making Genesis addons instead of making good franchises to pull in a fanbase like Nintendo did (mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, etc).

[raspberrylicious]

I love how this guy hasn't left the forum yet.

[Venus]

4. Sega sinked too much money into making Genesis addons instead of making good franchises to pull in a fanbase like Nintendo did (mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, etc).

The Sega CD was bad enough, I mean sure most of the games were shit, but they did release some classics, Lunar, Snatcher, Sonic CD but the 32X was the real deal. I mean they were about to release the Saturn around the time it came out. They just made a lot of bad decisions...

[Otaku916]

4. Sega sinked too much money into making Genesis addons instead of making good franchises to pull in a fanbase like Nintendo did (mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, etc).

The Sega CD was bad enough, I mean sure most of the games were shit, but they did release some classics, Lunar, Snatcher, Sonic CD but the 32X was the real deal. I mean they were about to release the Saturn around the time it came out. They just made a lot of bad decisions...

Yeah, it's pretty sad that Nintendo literally sat back and did nothing but put out great games while Sega released 2908590289058208 different addons for the Genesis. When I was younger I owned both consoles but LOL'ed at the thought of buying a Sega CD and ROFLED at buying a 32x.

[stealth20k]

the problem with the genesis is people just gave up on it even though I think technically it could do more, most devs just didnt care

Genesis's main problem were:

1. On screen colors and total palette was far less than the SNES. IIRC the Genesis only had 256 max colors on screen at once and the SNES had 32k with transparency effects. The SNES looked **MUCH** better than the genesis although there were some genesis games that looked quite good. Also snes had mode7.

2. The genesis used a cheap piece of shit FM synthesis chip for it's music while the SNES used a high quality wavetable type chip. FM synth is very hard to program correct so must genesis games sounded like shit.

3. SNES I believe had over double the max cart size.

4. Sega sinked too much money into making Genesis addons instead of making good franchises to pull in a fanbase like Nintendo did (mario, zelda, metroid, donkey kong, etc).

cart sizes were adjustable. thats no real big flaw.........

and I mentioned software