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Re: White Album

Postby stealth20k » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:07 pm

Well it a manga property so not to be mean but nisa would never localize this
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Re: White Album

Postby Aldotsk » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:53 pm

stealth20k wrote:Well it a manga property so not to be mean but nisa would never localize this


Oh really? Just because it's a manga property NISA won't localize it? Don't kid yourself.

Toradora and Persona: Trinity Soul were difficult series to be licensed and I am glad NISA were able to license it. Mainly because I go to most of every north eastern convention centers and I check Funimation and Bandai panels to see what they would be licensing. As for Toradora, there were many companies that wanted the series and NISA were able to grab it first hand. (Great job!) Funimations were next, and Bandai was in the back. Remember, those two studios are Anime focused studio too mostly. So they'd have more source and power of grabbing this series. As for Persona: Trinity Soul, original plans were that it was going to be licensed by Geneon at 2007~2008 and it didn't work out because of the financial problems that the company had. So the anime P: TS was on the shallow moot.

As for White Album? I am looking forward to it. I'd want to play the White Album 2 for Playstation 3 as well. Heck, I wish NISA would do To Heart 2. But of course, TH2 and TH2: AD are quite niche titles but also full of adult contents. They'll need to figure out how to edit those if they want to make it less adult content. But why not? They made Ar Tonelico rated for Teen when in Japan and Korea - they were actually 16-17+.
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Re: White Album

Postby stealth20k » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:06 pm

If its a GAME and a manga property they wont bring it to america. Knowbody will.


Did you read the recent article that said stores wont even allow manga games (other than the shonen crap) to ever be displayed.... meaning no manga game really other than those will see the light of day here.
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Re: White Album

Postby Phoenix_Apollo » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:16 pm

stealth20k wrote:If its a GAME and a manga property they wont bring it to america. Knowbody will.


Did you read the recent article that said stores wont even allow manga games (other than the shonen crap) to ever be displayed.... meaning no manga game really other than those will see the light of day here.


Good sir, put up or shut up!
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Re: White Album

Postby stealth20k » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:30 pm

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Re: White Album

Postby Onislash » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:06 pm

Of course, there are exceptions. Xseed published The Sky Crawlers: The Innocent Aces earlier this year and retailers are saving shelf space for Hudson’s Beyblade games. Still, the lack of retail interest could explain why anime licensed titles are less common. Publishers, perhaps, may want to release them, but stores don’t want ‘em


.... Selective reading troubles? It helps when you read what you quote. Unless your saying The Sky Crawlers is a major franchise is America, which it could be for all I know.

And yes you said :

If its a GAME and a manga property they wont bring it to america. Knowbody will.


Yes its not likely that billions of anime games not called DBZ will start going overseas however its crap to start knocking down everything based on personal opinion alone.

I feel better now.
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Re: White Album

Postby stealth20k » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:23 pm

Yes beylade was for a time like yuigoh and was highly popular amongst little kids. Its not as popular anymore.


And 1 exception for 1 game isnt a good way to prove your point especially when that game didnt sell well.

Retailers dont want manga games on the shelves. Thats it.
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Re: White Album

Postby Onislash » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:34 am

stealth20k wrote:Yes beylade was for a time like yuigoh and was highly popular amongst little kids. Its not as popular anymore.


Selective reading troubles indeed. Should I enlarge the text for you?

stealth20k wrote:And 1 exception for 1 game isnt a good way to prove your point especially when that game didnt sell well.


How many "1 exception" exceptions is needed to change your mind? Whether you like it or not it did happen and it therefore is possible for more. I also take it you know what "selling well" equals?

stealth20k wrote:Retailers dont want manga games on the shelves. Thats it.


Like the The Sky Crawlers: The Innocent Aces not getting on shelves?
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Re: White Album

Postby stealth20k » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:58 am

Not to mention NISA has never localized a manga game and lets entertain the thought they do......there are better games than white album. And if they do in some realm of possibility, the game would be guarenteed to make a loss . Sounds like they would jump right on that.
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Re: White Album

Postby Elixir » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:31 am

stealth20k wrote:Not to mention NISA has never localized a manga game and lets entertain the thought they do......there are better games than white album. And if they do in some realm of possibility, the game would be guarenteed to make a loss . Sounds like they would jump right on that.


Disgaea Infinite.

Hirameki used to localize eroge awhile ago, but yeah, there really is no market. Disgaea Infinite was probably localized by the way of Disgaea's name. The western fans will just wait for a translation patch to come along. I don't know much about White Album, but I remember HIrameki asking Key if they could localize CLANNAD... and they wanted something like 1 million yen.

I have the localizations of Kana and Ever17, though. Still, if a game has a translation patch and I'm able to afford it without going through a deputy service to purchase off Yahoo Japan (in which somebody has bought the game and is selling it on there, the deputy service purchases it and sends it to you--doesn't feel like you're actually supporting the company in the long run) I'd buy more and show my support.

There's also another thing where, the eroge/galge scene in Japan is also quite small. I'd say it's below that of rhythm games and shmups. This leads to them costing up to 9,800 yen each, because they know they won't be selling them in masses like Nintendo's stuff.
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Re: White Album

Postby stealth20k » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:49 am

They only localzied disgaea infinite because it had disgaea characters in it.
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Re: White Album

Postby magusgs » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:37 am

Elixir wrote:Disgaea Infinite.

Hirameki used to localize eroge awhile ago, but yeah, there really is no market. Disgaea Infinite was probably localized by the way of Disgaea's name. The western fans will just wait for a translation patch to come along. I don't know much about White Album, but I remember HIrameki asking Key if they could localize CLANNAD... and they wanted something like 1 million yen.

I have the localizations of Kana and Ever17, though. Still, if a game has a translation patch and I'm able to afford it without going through a deputy service to purchase off Yahoo Japan (in which somebody has bought the game and is selling it on there, the deputy service purchases it and sends it to you--doesn't feel like you're actually supporting the company in the long run) I'd buy more and show my support.

There's also another thing where, the eroge/galge scene in Japan is also quite small. I'd say it's below that of rhythm games and shmups. This leads to them costing up to 9,800 yen each, because they know they won't be selling them in masses like Nintendo's stuff.

Actually, Hirameki didn't localize eroge. Also, eroge make up about 25% of all PC game sales in Japan. That's nothing to sniff at.

If it matters, I also support this topic. I'd love for a game like White Album to be localized, and it's doubtful JAST USA or Mangagamer are up to the task (JAST USA only does eroge, and Mangagamer only does digital releases).
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Re: White Album

Postby Ar Tonelico » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:21 pm

magusgs wrote:Actually, Hirameki didn't localize eroge. Also, eroge make up about 25% of all PC game sales in Japan. That's nothing to sniff at.

If it matters, I also support this topic. I'd love for a game like White Album to be localized, and it's doubtful JAST USA or Mangagamer are up to the task (JAST USA only does eroge, and Mangagamer only does digital releases).


Well Mangagamer did make disc copies of Higurashi for Anime Expo but of course that was their 1st attempt though. Plus I don't know I just don't see them or JAST doing it except for maybe the original PC version. Besides like if it's Mangagamer still have to import but be in Europe.
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Re: White Album

Postby magusgs » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:40 pm

The original White Album for PC came out in 1998. For compatibiilty reasons (among others), JAST would never localize a game that old. Mangagamer likely wouldn't either. But more importantly, JAST or Mangagamer would have to strike a new deal with Leaf to do so--in the eroge localization business, finding new partners is difficult and doesn't happen too often.

Of course, the PS3 version doesn't have much of a chance of getting localized either, considering SCEA's stance of visual novels "not being games". Still, the production values associated with this remake give it somewhat of an edge.

Regarding Mangagamer, it remains to be seen if they'll implement physical copies out of conventions. I sort of doubt it, considering their statements on the matter so far. They likely brought physical copies just because they knew they wouldn't be able to generate any sales at the convention otherwise--definitely a smart move on their part, and evidence that their business sense is continually improving.
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Re: White Album

Postby boricua05 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:17 am

this game is awesome, please NIS Make.Happen XD
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