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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Ringwraith » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:12 am

bldudas wrote:I just finished the game last night. I really do not see what is so terrible about the ending that everyone is complaining. Is it the best ending ever - no. Is it the worst ending ever - no.

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It's a deus ex machina in series which never pulls them, at least not without adequate explanation, and feels incredibly tacked on, and more or less discounts any of your previous decisions, with the galactic readiness only having minor effects and make no sense as to why.
They've also gone on record as saying 'it won't have an A, B or C, ending' when that's precisely what it has, and they've said that fairly close to the game's release so they knew it was ending that way, so there's no excuse for that.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby bldudas » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:01 am

Ringwraith wrote:
bldudas wrote:I just finished the game last night. I really do not see what is so terrible about the ending that everyone is complaining. Is it the best ending ever - no. Is it the worst ending ever - no.

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It's a deus ex machina in series which never pulls them, at least not without adequate explanation, and feels incredibly tacked on, and more or less discounts any of your previous decisions, with the galactic readiness only having minor effects and make no sense as to why.
They've also gone on record as saying 'it won't have an A, B or C, ending' when that's precisely what it has, and they've said that fairly close to the game's release so they knew it was ending that way, so there's no excuse for that.



But all this rage, threats, whining? It makes no sense.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Rydux » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:46 am

bldudas wrote:
Ringwraith wrote:
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It's a deus ex machina in series which never pulls them, at least not without adequate explanation, and feels incredibly tacked on, and more or less discounts any of your previous decisions, with the galactic readiness only having minor effects and make no sense as to why.
They've also gone on record as saying 'it won't have an A, B or C, ending' when that's precisely what it has, and they've said that fairly close to the game's release so they knew it was ending that way, so there's no excuse for that.



But all this rage, threats, whining? It makes no sense.


It makes perfect sense to me. I mean, we devoted over a 100 hours of our lives in this masterpiece of a sci-fi trilogy, we fell in love with the characters, with the squad mates (Tali~<3), the aliens, the entire world of Mass Effect. And we became Commander Shepard. Only to see it conclude without any closure of any sorts with such a "tacked on" ending?

Ringwraith wrote:Well, the ending was being changed right up until the eleventh hour, so I doubt anything was very well planned and it certainly feels like it, as it's just sort of stitched onto the end of the game badly.


Yea, but I would like to think that the ending to this awesome trilogy wasn't complete garbage.
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nd it kinda makes sense. I mean, the goal through the entire game, to destroy the Reapers, was labeled in 'Renagade' colors, the one option where Shepard showed he had faith in the future of the galaxy.There has to be reason for that. Plus, if the Galaxy Readiness is high enough, and you choose to destroy the reapers, it's revealed that Shepard survived. How did that happen, when the Citadel was shown to be destroyed?
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Ringwraith » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:25 am

Rydux wrote:
bldudas wrote:
Ringwraith wrote:
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It's a deus ex machina in series which never pulls them, at least not without adequate explanation, and feels incredibly tacked on, and more or less discounts any of your previous decisions, with the galactic readiness only having minor effects and make no sense as to why.
They've also gone on record as saying 'it won't have an A, B or C, ending' when that's precisely what it has, and they've said that fairly close to the game's release so they knew it was ending that way, so there's no excuse for that.



But all this rage, threats, whining? It makes no sense.


It makes perfect sense to me. I mean, we devoted over a 100 hours of our lives in this masterpiece of a sci-fi trilogy, we fell in love with the characters, with the squad mates (Tali~<3), the aliens, the entire world of Mass Effect. And we became Commander Shepard. Only to see it conclude without any closure of any sorts with such a "tacked on" ending?

It's mostly due to the fact that the writing is so good up until that point means the bad ending sticks all the more. The inconsistency is very jarring. Not to mention lying to your fans, not a good idea.
I mean there's a lot of people overreacting horrendously to this, but there's probably far more who are more rational about it.

Incidentally, Bioware have opened the can of worms, for better or worse, that is by saying they'll alter the ending somehow.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Rydux » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:38 am

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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Ringwraith » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:39 am

This gives a clearer view of what they're actually doing.
Basically, not undoing the stupid, just giving some closure.
Which is a shame, as I don't care what they artistically think of that ending, it's just stupid and it could be retained without it being so, just such a failure at being anything.
In fact, someone managed to work the existing thing into a far better ending, so it could be done.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Zaneandthebeard » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:27 pm

I don't really want to say anything about the extended cut as it's not what the ending needs.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Rydux » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:02 pm

I don't know what to think. i guess the Indoctrination Theory was false in the end. Which is a shame really, seeing as that, and the ending provided just now made more sense then the ending Bioware had come up with. But a bit of closure won't hurt... so I guess I'll cautiously be optimistic about it.
but still, this isn't what Marauder Shields fought for...
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Ringwraith » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:57 pm

Rydux wrote:I don't know what to think. i guess the Indoctrination Theory was false in the end. Which is a shame really, seeing as that, and the ending provided just now made more sense then the ending Bioware had come up with. But a bit of closure won't hurt... so I guess I'll cautiously be optimistic about it.
but still, this isn't what Marauder Shields fought for...

The theory was nice and all, but seeing how badly the writing goes off the rails at the end, it seemed to be assuming much more forethought than was displayed. Not to mention how the ending was being changed right up until release.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby RonXSilva » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:22 pm

What I find funny is that most people who say "stop complaining" always state they never played the game or have no interest in the game.~

And I say....really? people who have not played the game are passing judgment haha funny.

My 2 cent on the ending tho: Yeah the ending was horrible the game deserved so much more...while I hated the ending to the max I won't go rage about it like some people on the internet have~

As for the DLC I doubt it can change the damage that has already been done... all we can do is move on sadly~
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby vampko » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:55 pm

RonXSilva wrote:What I find funny is that most people who say "stop complaining" always state they never played the game or have no interest in the game.~

And I say....really? people who have not played the game are passing judgment haha funny.

My 2 cent on the ending tho: Yeah the ending was horrible the game deserved so much more...while I hated the ending to the max I won't go rage about it like some people on the internet have~

As for the DLC I doubt it can change the damage that has already been done... all we can do is move on sadly~

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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Ringwraith » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:50 pm

I've already kind of proved that with one of my links where someone made the current ending better, although it can't fix the underlying problems with it without changing it entirely, but they basically expanded upon what was there and instantly made it better.
Although you might have to try really hard to make it worse actually...
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby vampko » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:25 am

Ringwraith wrote:I've already kind of proved that with one of my links where someone made the current ending better, although it can't fix the underlying problems with it without changing it entirely, but they basically expanded upon what was there and instantly made it better.
Although you might have to try really hard to make it worse actually...

I need to watch this ending, so I can rise to that challenge 8-)
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Ringwraith » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:40 am

Right, so the extended cut will be out on the 26th, no charge.
Have to replay through the final stretch again though.
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Re: Mass Effect 3 leaked on EA store.

Postby Rydux » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:55 am

Ringwraith wrote:Right, so the extended cut will be out on the 26th, no charge.
Have to replay through the final stretch again though.


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