Why hasn't NISA published an Xbox 360 title yet?

[odinfan]

I'm not sure about the current situation, but I believe NIS Japan had plans to do it, or have done it already. I don't see why we can't do the same here. Sure, I understand the fact that its not really a niche RPG system to publish for, but there has to be at least one game for it, that other publishers haven't taken up.

Looking at the games list, it's dominated by the PS2 and the Handhelds.

[magusgs]

What Xbox 360 game would you suggest they localize? I don't know if there's any niche 360 jRPGs out right now that would be up NISAs alley and are not slated to be localized by someone else. Keep in mind, in Japan the PS3 dominates the 360 as far as install base goes, and furthermore it seems to be the place where the niche games are coming out. Porting PS3 games to 360 for localization may make sense (because install base numbers are flipped overseas), but there may very well be little for NISA to localize when it comes to native 360 games.

Just look at NIS's titles released in Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Ichi_Software). They don't release 360 titles. Gust doesn't either (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gust_Corporation). When their major developer contacts aren't releasing 360 games, why should NISA be localizing them?

[odinfan]

Diario: Rebirth Moon Legend.... developed by Idea Factory(Hint, hint). If a game like Disgaea 3 could have mass appeal on the PS3, I don't see why it can't also be the case with this title. It's an SRPG as well, so it fits right in with NISA's style.

Originally released on the PS2 as just "Rebirth Moon".

[magusgs]

Diario: Rebirth Moon Legend.... developed by Idea Factory(Hint, hint). If a game like Disgaea 3 could have mass appeal on the PS3, I don't see why it can't also be the case with this title. It's an SRPG as well, so it fits right in with NISA's style.

Originally released on the PS2 as just "Rebirth Moon".

Hmm. Wikipedia information on the game is scarce. Is there any significant difference between the 360 and PS2 version? As the PS2 has a larger install base (2-3x), might it not sell better as a PS2 title? People are also more accustomed to playing games with dated graphics on the PS2.

Interestingly, 2/3 Idea Factory 360 games are re-releases of PS2 games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea_Factory

[Dragonkingtatsu]

The only Japanes game I can think of I'd want is The Idolm@ster, but considering the genre, and the IP company(Bandai-Namco), I doubt I'll ever see it in English

[odinfan]

I suggested it for the simple fact that the PS2 might not live long enough for them to publish another title in time. As for the graphics issues, I'm not worried about that as much as the fact that people may not be familiar with the game. After all a game like Disgaea probably wouldn't sell on the PS3 if it didn't carry that name.

So my main concern is brand recognition instead. Aside from Chaos Wars, and their Generations series, I barely know IF as a company.

I want Idolm@ster too, but that's pretty much out of reach for any publisher in the US.

[magusgs]

I don't really understand why people think the PS2 is dying. In the UK at least, the PS2 has DOUBLED the overall unit sales of both the PS3 and 360 COMBINED (http://news.spong.com/article/17740/PS2 ... stall-Base). Even assuming half of those systems have failed, that still leaves more working PS2's in homes right now than either next-gen system. In Q1 2009, more PS2 systems were sold than PS3s (http://www.pushsquare.com/4896/playstat ... well-down/). The claim that the PS2 is dying is a myth.

There's so many good PS2 RPGs out there that I don't understand how a fan of RPGs, particularly niche RPGs, could not have a PS2. It's one thing if they break, but mine's still going strong after around 8 years, and they're cheap to replace on top of that.

[odinfan]

Yes, i understand where you're coming from, but what evidence do you have that it will last in the long run? The lack of quality PS2 titles(like Sakura Wars) after this year makes sure that it is on its last legs. The only games I see coming out are either Sports titles, which I don't think anyone has an interest in at this point, or third party games like DDR(might still be fun for some, but I've moved on) and the Singstar series.

I never said PS2s might not sell either. I know people may buy them to revisit older games, get one because they can't afford a PS3, or for the few scant new releases. My only concern is that it is now being flooded with junk because people have moved on. It's going to be really hard to find something you would play later on.

[magusgs]

People buy PS2 systems to play PS2 games. It follows that interest in PS2 games will lag interest in PS2 systems (in other words, PS2 games will continue to sell even after console sales begin to tank). Since system sales are still high now, game sales should still be strong 1-2 years out.

I think people underestimate the PS2's runaway success, as well as its notoriety as an RPG console. The PS2 might even hang on til the next console generation (current predictions have this at 2013, after the apocalypse).

[odinfan]

Again, I see what you're trying to say(the original Playstation lasted until 2006, even when games weren't being made anymore), but I don't think that's the majority view. That's why it takes longer for some to be convinced to come back.

I'm not disagreeing with you about past titles, it's if people can still keep interest in a system in the long run when there aren't many newer games coming out. Understand, I still play it, but not everyone shares that view as much as I may.

[soundmonkey44]

Personally I think there arn't any NISA games on the 360, cause its primarilly seen as a consle for shooters & NFL games.

[lopez]

Atlus tried publishing some RPG games on the 360 and look where that got them...

It all goes back to the idea of trying something new. The 360 is mostly shooters and sports games and the 360 demographic likes it that way. A few 360 only RPG games came out (Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey) and the sales weren't that great, well at least not enough to warrant interest from developers/publishers to put more RPG's on the 360.

NISA is probably looking at the sales of the few RPG's on the 360 and thinking.... let's try the Wii and PS3 instead...

Even using big name Japanese legends like Nobou Uematsu and Hironobu Sakaguchi didn't really help the RPG movement on the 360...

[soundmonkey44]

The only thing My 360 is good for is Fighters & Collections of Retro games...If Only NISA would make a Smash bros like fighter with there , IF & Gusts characters & release it on PS3 or 360.

but thats just wishful thinking.

[odinfan]

NIS Japan, you mean.... but that would be really cool.

[Eelcire]

Cross Edge Dash is always an option for NISA, as NIS has already put the game out in Japan for 360 Would love to see Disgaea 3 make it over as well for the 360, but that's probably a pipe dream. Even if the Xbox 360 is seen as the 'shooter box', it still has a large enough user base to support a wide variety of genres.

I'll be picking up Record of Agarest War for my Xbox 360 when it hits the states, and I certainly hope I can support NISA in some form in the future as well.