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they invested so much money in college!

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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby vampko » Sun May 20, 2012 1:33 am

That's how much college costs -_-

They're just fortunate that their parents can afford it. That's completely different than the other article which is about spending luxurious amounts of money on luxuries. Paying for a future is that expensive. And unless you have connections of some sort, or are a super genius, you need college to get a job nowadays. I've got neither, I'm pretty intelligent, but not a super genius. And I don't have any connections whatsoever.
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun May 20, 2012 8:06 am

And then people wonder why I call it a total ripoff to go to college. :roll:

vampko wrote: Paying for a future is that expensive.

You see, that's where everyone has been tricked into the mindset that "college is the only way". You shouldn't have to "Pay" for a future and think "By doing this, I really am working hard!" Does anyone see just how stupid and illogical that is?

But... I suppose before I got off on a tangent, I'll stay on topic...

What did they expect when they were sending five girls to college?
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Alura--x--Uneii » Sun May 20, 2012 8:10 am

Yeah but most places won't hire you unless you have a degree >.>
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun May 20, 2012 8:14 am

Alura--x--Uneii wrote:Yeah but most places won't hire you unless you have a degree >.>

Because everyone has bought this bullshit lie hook line and sinker. Go figure.
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Alura--x--Uneii » Sun May 20, 2012 8:21 am

MizuMikomi wrote:
Alura--x--Uneii wrote:Yeah but most places won't hire you unless you have a degree >.>

Because everyone has bought this bullshit lie hook line and sinker. Go figure.


True, but can you go into video game making with only knowing high school level math? owo Not arguing, just asking a question because starting in June I'll be going to Texas for training with a company that makes games/ apps for the phone. (Yeah I said it before but..yeah :p ) So I'm just wondering if you could get very far without college in that industry. owo
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun May 20, 2012 8:25 am

Alura--x--Uneii wrote:True, but can you go into video game making with only knowing high school level math? owo Not arguing, just asking a question because starting in June I'll be going to Texas for training with a company that makes games/ apps for the phone. (Yeah I said it before but..yeah :p ) So I'm just wondering if you could get very far without college in that industry. owo

I haven't a clue...

Personally, I want to go into writing of some sort, I hardly learned anything applicable in school-- since all the writing I did consisted of pre-determined subjects.

I can't stand having something chosen for me. =3=
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Alura--x--Uneii » Sun May 20, 2012 8:31 am

Me either, though they'll train me so that'll be good.

Oh that reminds me to work on my novel as well, I'm re writing it though...

There's just so many rules of writing though >.<

Speaking of having things being chosen don't the Japanese have to choose a college to go into? owo
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Sheleigha » Sun May 20, 2012 8:38 am

MizuMikomi wrote:
Alura--x--Uneii wrote:Yeah but most places won't hire you unless you have a degree >.>

Because everyone has bought this bullshit lie hook line and sinker. Go figure.


Well, that's sadly how things are now. It's not like back in the 70's etc when there were many prosperous industries, and one could drop out of high school and make GOOD money (better than alot of people that did go to college, in fact!)

...that's not possible anymore. Degrees now, are one way of thinning out people that apply for a position. Would you REALLY take someone that knows only a little of that industry, over someone who has studied it for X amount of years and has a diploma to show it? There are many unemployed people, and it certainly is tougher to get chances for a good job. But, in places that provide financial aid to help pay for your schooling, if you are in the position to be able to, why not?
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby vampko » Sun May 20, 2012 8:43 am

There are things about college which I agree are dumb regardless, like how I have to take a natural sciences class to prove I can speak/read/write Japanese. Those general reqs are the main problem with colleges. But, once you get past that first year, knocking all those general reqs outta the way, you get to stick with specialized classes which better reflect the training you need. The REAL problem with colleges is that there are corporations out there making their own schools which are not there to do anything but make them money. Public universities and the like are actually pretty nice once you get past those general reqs.
Sheleigha wrote:But, in places that provide financial aid to help pay for your schooling, if you are in the position to be able to, why not?

I make no money, I'm too old to even have my parents factor into the equation and I have about 100 dollars in the bank. And you know what FAFSA tells me? "You have exceeded the amount that is allowed to be borrowed" This isn't a yearly thing, they NEVER will give me more money. EVER. All because I went to a school which charged extravagent prices and FAFSA just bent over backwards and freely gave me funds. Which is why I've borrowed the maximum amount. When it came to community college, suddenly they weren't willing to help out anymore.

The FAFSA system is broken. Less aid should be given to for profit schools. And the difference should be given to government schools.
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Alura--x--Uneii » Sun May 20, 2012 8:48 am

I wonder if that means I have to study how an Ipad works if I'm going to be making apps for it... :?
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun May 20, 2012 8:52 am

vampko wrote:There are things about college which I agree are dumb regardless, like how I have to take a natural sciences class to prove I can speak/read/write Japanese. Those general reqs are the main problem with colleges. But, once you get past that first year, knocking all those general reqs outta the way, you get to stick with specialized classes which better reflect the training you need.

General Reqs/Basics, also known as "Money Pits" a "Con act" and various other derogatory terms that can refer to being blindly swindled out of your money.
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby vampko » Sun May 20, 2012 8:58 am

MizuMikomi wrote:
vampko wrote:There are things about college which I agree are dumb regardless, like how I have to take a natural sciences class to prove I can speak/read/write Japanese. Those general reqs are the main problem with colleges. But, once you get past that first year, knocking all those general reqs outta the way, you get to stick with specialized classes which better reflect the training you need.

General Reqs/Basics, also known as "Money Pits" a "Con act" and various other derogatory terms that can refer to being blindly swindled out of your money.

There are quite a few people it's helped out actually. Not very many people actually know what they want to do with their life. Honestly, if I had gone to Community college first and been forced to take general reqs, I probably would have been taking Japanese classes, since I love em, and then learned that I didn't like programming as much as I thought I did earlier on. It's actually because I didn't have those pre-reqs in the schools I went to (outside a basic English class), that I wasted so much money and time of my life
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Sheleigha » Sun May 20, 2012 9:02 am

vampko wrote:The FAFSA system is broken.


Reminds me of the time I was injured (sadly not at work) and had to take a month off to get better. I filled out the forms as the guy at the counter told me to (it was a weird situation since I DID go back to work for 2 days, but hurt again so had to take off another 2 weeks). Because of how I filled it out, I got a back a letter saying "we do not have proof that you are still injured" 0_O... Thanks to that, I missed out on my Christmas pay... Best month ever >_>
As for FASFA, guess I've been lucky. When I used it after I moved, it worked out since I was basically a blank slate.


MizuMikomi wrote:General Reqs/Basics, also known as "Money Pits" a "Con act" and various other derogatory terms that can refer to being blindly swindled out of your money.


I do believe that having a general knowledge about different things is a good idea, especially if you decide to change majors. And yes, some pre-reqs are relevant to what you are actually taking. Things like Psych 101 can apply to anything, really, and is a good general knowledge to have. However.... the biggest BS of a pre-req is this one university I know of: Apparently if you want to take a business program with them, you need 2 pre-reqs... of physical education. I'm not even joking. Do they want their business people to not be lazy or something? I don't understand... However something like bowling can count towards one of the classes. If you aren't even into that, a waste of time and money... And just plain STUPID.
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Re: they invested so much money in college!

Postby Alura--x--Uneii » Sun May 20, 2012 9:05 am

All I know is I'm trying to get a degree in Graphic design and I'm going into making games for the Ipad and stuff...not sure how that's related..
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