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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby ShadowJetX » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:46 am

darkclaymore wrote:Guess no one got idea?

Also, a few things I thought about:

1) @SJX, Mizu: NEITHER of you need to answer riddles well in order to activate your powers?
2) @SJX: Do you know whatever your N2 investigation on me "Failed to target" or was "Blocked"?

It was kinda vague, I just got a PM saying my pins weren't working.

I'm not sure what your getting at with your first question.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:01 am

darkclaymore wrote:Guess no one got idea?

Also, a few things I thought about:

1) @SJX, Mizu: NEITHER of you need to answer riddles well in order to activate your powers?

My special power is entirely different from my roleblock.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby darkclaymore » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:06 am

ShadowJetX wrote:It was kinda vague, I just got a PM saying my pins weren't working.

This could in theory solve the N2 block issue.
What if Mafia also got Roleblocker and they blocked you N2?
I'm not sure about that, considering the text color in the scene was different than Neku's. Could be a misleading though, to make things vague. If I were the host, I'd use colorless (black) text if I wanted to stay anonymous, but who knows whatever Red's do the same.


ShadowJetX wrote:I'm not sure what your getting at with your first question.

That's quite weird considering I DO need to answer right in order to activate mine.
The efficiency of my role depends on who gets it really, and it can backfire as easily as, say, Roleblocker. Thus, I wouldn't say it's all that amazing to require answering a riddle compared to your roles (the role is PERFECT in my specific case though).
There's also the fact that I believe riddles are meant to be answered.

Giving zero reason to vanillas to answer it, as well as not forcing about half of the PRs to solve it - sounds weird when it comes to game planning. Hardly anyone will be interested in answering them.




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darkclaymore wrote:Guess no one got idea?

Also, a few things I thought about:

1) @SJX, Mizu: NEITHER of you need to answer riddles well in order to activate your powers?

My special power is entirely different from my roleblock.

So some PRs get EXTRA PR if answer correctly...?
Hmm... Feasible I suppose...
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:11 am

darkclaymore wrote:
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darkclaymore wrote:Guess no one got idea?

Also, a few things I thought about:

1) @SJX, Mizu: NEITHER of you need to answer riddles well in order to activate your powers?

My special power is entirely different from my roleblock.

So some PRs get EXTRA PR if answer correctly...?
Hmm... Feasible I suppose...

Yep, but mine is nothing spectacular. So don't try and tell me to answer the riddles-- since it wouldn't do much in a manner of scumhunting.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby darkclaymore » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:41 am

I just realized that if Vampko is indeed town as he claims, then Sutt still may, in theory, be Mafia. Not SK however.


EO - Town/SK
Mizu - Town
Vampko - Town
Raspy - Town/Mafia/SK
SJX - Town
Pringles - Town/Mafia/SK
Claymore - Town/Mafia
Lopez - Town/Mafia/SK
Sutt - Town/Mafia
TFG - Town/Mafia/WTF


Now that I look at it, as far as blocking goes, the best approach should be blocking those who can be SK. We got 4 potential SKs. One should be able to clear himself due to being Vampko's sibling, which would leave 3 options.

Without sibling claim, we'll have 25% to stop SK NK.
With sibling claim, we'll have 33% to stop SK NK.
In both cases, if no NK is stopped, at the very least we'll have less potential SKs on the list.

I don't think chances are over the top different here, so it's up to that player whatever to claim.

Now I know I came up with this fairly late, but I believe Red didn't lock anything yet (no "Scene Incoming"). Mizu, if you blocked someone other than a potential SK - I suggest trying to switch to another target.

Also, due to your role being stronger than SJX's at this point - I suggest sharing who you gonna block with SJX and/or Vampko in private (I don't see any limitation on Night PMing so...). At least in case you're killed - the information won't be lost.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby TheForeignGamer » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:44 am

WTF is a WTF alignment? :|
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby darkclaymore » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:51 am

TheForeignGamer wrote:WTF is a WTF alignment?

It means anything other than Town and Mafia.
Second SK, Survivor, Cult Leader Backup, Jester, Mentor, Lyncher, Mime, Fourth Party, Fifth Party... Millionth Party and etc.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby Empty Overture » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:59 am

I can assure you guys I'm not SK~ Because if I was, don't you think SJX and Clay would of been gone by now? I take out powerplayers first. You guys know that. Again, if you wish I claim, I'm willing.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby darkclaymore » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:07 am

Empty Overture wrote:Because if I was, don't you think SJX and Clay would of been gone by now?

But my role is ABOUT avoiding NKs. Well, mainly at least...
Actually, N2 events could also be explained through Mafia targeting me. "Pins not working" doesn't sound like the best flavor attachment, but if we assume SJX experienced the same by targeting me (instead of Mafia Roleblocker theory), then it could fit well...
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby Empty Overture » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:11 am

darkclaymore wrote:But my role is ABOUT avoiding NKs. Well, mainly at least...
Actually, N2 events could also be explained through Mafia targeting me. "Pins not working" doesn't sound like the best flavor attachment, but if we assume SJX experienced the same by targeting me (instead of Mafia Roleblocker theory), then it could fit well...

Damn, you're right... I guess proving my innocence won't be so easy this time around. Well, whatever.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby TheForeignGamer » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:28 am

darkclaymore wrote:Second SK, Survivor, Cult Leader Backup, Jester, Mentor, Lyncher, Mime, Fourth Party, Fifth Party... Millionth Party and etc.

Ah, okay. I haven't really heard of any of these roles, though. :/
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby darkclaymore » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:36 am

Empty Overture wrote:
darkclaymore wrote:But my role is ABOUT avoiding NKs. Well, mainly at least...
Actually, N2 events could also be explained through Mafia targeting me. "Pins not working" doesn't sound like the best flavor attachment, but if we assume SJX experienced the same by targeting me (instead of Mafia Roleblocker theory), then it could fit well...

Damn, you're right... I guess proving my innocence won't be so easy this time around. Well, whatever.

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darkclaymore wrote:Second SK, Survivor, Cult Leader Backup, Jester, Mentor, Lyncher, Mime, Fourth Party, Fifth Party... Millionth Party and etc.

Ah, okay. I haven't really heard of any of these roles, though. :/

Oh, and did I mention...
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby Empty Overture » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:45 am

darkclaymore wrote:In theory, if we let paranoia control us, then you can even be Mafia who bussed Adtl. Image

Letting paranoia control us this late in the game is indeed a bad idea. We can't get any more lynches wrong. We need a 100% success rate with finding scum.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby TheForeignGamer » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:49 am

I highly doubt those are real roles. Lol.
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Re: Mafia XIX - Night 4 Ends 6/10 at 5:00 AM EST

Postby raspberrylicious » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:51 am

TheForeignGamer wrote:I highly doubt those are real roles. Lol.

No, they are.
Look them up.
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