ending requirements?

[icypandax]

i want to try to get all the endings of the game but i'm lost on what to do. i only have the normal ending for kanata and the bad ending for rizelea. help me asap T_T

[Grim-Thanatos]

Bad End: Drift less than 5 non-story dungeons

Normal End: Missing an optional character, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Good End: Have the 3 optional characters, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Truth End: Get normal end or good end with 1 of the main characters, start a new game+ as the other character, get the 3 optional characters, drift at least 15 dungeons b4 ch 11, view 2 extra events in ch 11

Truth end is the same for both characters.

Any1 correct me if I'm wrong.

[vampko]

wait...so there are 3 optional characters? I know the Fire guy and that one person who you have to pay money into, but who's the last one? I missed the fire guy though. So looks like I'm set on the normal ending

[Aryoch]

Bad End: Drift less than 5 non-story dungeons

Normal End: Missing an optional character, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Good End: Have the 3 optional characters, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Truth End: Get normal end or good end with 1 of the main characters, start a new game+ as the other character, get the 3 optional characters, drift at least 15 dungeons b4 ch 11, view 2 extra events in ch 11

Truth end is the same for both characters.

Any1 correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks!! I shall use this information =)

[XCronoX]

Bad End: Drift less than 5 non-story dungeons

Normal End: Missing an optional character, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Good End: Have the 3 optional characters, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Truth End: Get normal end or good end with 1 of the main characters, start a new game+ as the other character, get the 3 optional characters, drift at least 15 dungeons b4 ch 11, view 2 extra events in ch 11

Truth end is the same for both characters.

Any1 correct me if I'm wrong.

Well there's 4 optional character's but can only get the 4th one on your second playthrough and will be after the beating the final boss and before going into the dungeon to beat the True End boss.

[vampko]

Bad End: Drift less than 5 non-story dungeons

Normal End: Missing an optional character, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Good End: Have the 3 optional characters, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Truth End: Get normal end or good end with 1 of the main characters, start a new game+ as the other character, get the 3 optional characters, drift at least 15 dungeons b4 ch 11, view 2 extra events in ch 11

Truth end is the same for both characters.

Any1 correct me if I'm wrong.

Well there's 4 optional character's but can only get the 4th one on your second playthrough and will be after the beating the final boss and before going into the dungeon to beat the True End boss.

Okay, that gives me a good idea on two of the secret characters I'm missing

Spoiler:

the fire guy and Suzaku?

, but I can't figure out who the last one would be? Could it be

Spoiler:

The demon god gem

?

[lordryo]

Bad End: Drift less than 5 non-story dungeons

Normal End: Missing an optional character, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Good End: Have the 3 optional characters, drift at least 5 non-story dungeons

Truth End: Get normal end or good end with 1 of the main characters, start a new game+ as the other character, get the 3 optional characters, drift at least 15 dungeons b4 ch 11, view 2 extra events in ch 11

Truth end is the same for both characters.

Any1 correct me if I'm wrong.

Well there's 4 optional character's but can only get the 4th one on your second playthrough and will be after the beating the final boss and before going into the dungeon to beat the True End boss.

Okay, that gives me a good idea on two of the secret characters I'm missing

Spoiler:

the fire guy and Suzaku?

, but I can't figure out who the last one would be? Could it be

Spoiler:

The demon god gem

?

The four optional characters are

Spoiler:

Recit, who I'm guessing is who you're calling the "fire guy" Mizuki, the Super Assassin Idol! Miyu and Suzaku.

[vampko]

Well there's 4 optional character's but can only get the 4th one on your second playthrough and will be after the beating the final boss and before going into the dungeon to beat the True End boss.

Okay, that gives me a good idea on two of the secret characters I'm missing

Spoiler:

the fire guy and Suzaku?

, but I can't figure out who the last one would be? Could it be

Spoiler:

The demon god gem

?

The four optional characters are

Spoiler:

Recit, who I'm guessing is who you're calling the "fire guy" Mizuki, the Super Assassin Idol! Miyu and Suzaku.

And here I thought

Spoiler:

Mizuki

was a normal Main character xD I probably missed the fire guy, so I'm still screwed outta the ending. Oh well. Thanks for the info.

[Rhuen]

Well looks like on my own I have already set myself up for at least the good endings if not the true ones. I always do all the optional events, actually I thought Recit and Mizuki were part of the normal straight story (this must mean some people don't do side quests as a regular action) It also means this game is a million times better than Cross-Edge as I never got any of those side characters with out using a cheat guide.

I wander though about Miyu...I have been using the Managraphics, but not often (only when I have ingrediants for a new one...buying them just to have them) do I have to spend so much there to get her, or is she obtained through side events?

which with her would leave me then with three, and you guys said the fourth is after the game *I assume Pamela is a normal story character then*

(I havn't done Rizelia yet).

[Anbu]

side characters ad how to get them

Spoiler:

Chapter 2: Miyu: just buy 2 or 3 Managraphics for 20k and you will unlock a few events(3 or 4) after seeing them she joins you

Chapter 3/4: Recit : chapter 3 see event where he speaks with Shopkeeper and then do Catsle Floor 3 behind bossmonster to fight him then in chapter 4 you have some sideevents where you fight him in the end again and then he joins

Chapter 4/5:Mizuki: first events in 4 are story related but in chapter 5 you have sideevents(easy way not missing anyone : do all events sleep in inn look for events , do that 3-4 times and you can be sure you have all) event to get her is names "mizuki's "mizugi"" then you can end chapter by going to the highschool

Suzaku: dont know im at end of 1st playtrough XD

Well i do all events but an indicator if you have a eventdungeon...all events are optional then ^^
so if you have eventdungeons do all events first sleep at inn when you dont have any events for 2-3 days then you can be sure not missing something

[lordryo]

Yeah I usually just sleep in the inn like 3 or 4 times before entering the event dungeon. But there is actually a few chapters that don't have dungeons and just viewing a event will trigger a battle and then end the chapter.

[Rhuen]

Looks like I missed Miyu then. Shame, guess Rizelia's going to have to get her then.

(strange both sides get the same ones)

Although does this mean Recit, Miyu, and Mizuki are all Idea Factory characters then?

from the box I assume NIS owns Kanata and Tsubaki, and we know they already own Flonne and Etna

The box also suggests Gust owns Rizelia and Lucious, and we know they own Violet and Pamela.

It is interesting for the companies to make their own characters with their own sides of the story and share each others characters rather than all the originals beings new and never being usable again (I assume we will see Kanata and Tsubaki again in future NIS games right? even if only as cameos like so many others, like the overlords of Makai kingdom).

Kanata side: NIS: Kanata, Tsubaki, Etna with Gust: Pamela.

Rizelia side: Gust: Rizelia, Lucious, Violet, with NIS: Flonne.

Others extra, so Idea factory then?

[windress]

I have a question that I've been meaning to ask (since I haven't completed the game yet, still working on 1st playthrough)...

Are all the endings different in regards of which story you play? What I'm asking is if the Bad Ending (Kanata's story) = Bad Ending (Rizelia's story), or if Normal Ending (Kanata's story) = Normal Ending (Rizelia's story)?

...that type of deal. I don't know, it's just been bugging me since I want to see all possible endings.

[Anbu]

@ Rhuen
Looks like I missed Miyu then. Shame, guess Rizelia's going to have to get her then.
i dont know if Riz has her then there are 2 possebilities one hand she joins you with riz or you never get her. I dont know if you can unlock her after part 5 by paying much.I really dont know and i daont want to test it out ^^.

(strange both sides get the same ones)
yeah thats a bit strange when you think about it cause i thought the both sides story are going parallel to each other so but the side you play gets the optional chars however.

Although does this mean Recit, Miyu, and Mizuki are all Idea Factory characters then?
Seems so but i know this
Recit: designed by Kazuyuki Yoshizumi, character designer for Gust's Mana Khemia series
Miyu : designed by Yoshihiko Imaizumi, character designer for Nippon Ichi's Jigsaw World game
soo thats what i know so far , i have to look in the artbook who the designer of Mizuki is XD

from the box I assume NIS owns Kanata and Tsubaki, and we know they already own Flonne and Etna
You forgot Prinny

The box also suggests Gust owns Rizelia and Lucious, and we know they own Violet and Pamela.
And what about Idea Factory? ^^



It is interesting for the companies to make their own characters with their own sides of the story and share each others characters rather than all the originals beings new and never being usable again (I assume we will see Kanata and Tsubaki again in future NIS games right? even if only as cameos like so many others, like the overlords of Makai kingdom).

Kanata side: NIS: Kanata, Tsubaki, Etna with Gust: Pamela.
Seems you dont like Prinny ^^

Rizelia side: Gust: Rizelia, Lucious, Violet, with NIS: Flonne.

Others extra, so Idea factory then?
Think so. But since they dotn say who own who we can just guess ^^



@windress
I have a question that I've been meaning to ask (since I haven't completed the game yet, still working on 1st playthrough)...

Are all the endings different in regards of which story you play? What I'm asking is if the Bad Ending (Kanata's story) = Bad Ending (Rizelia's story), or if Normal Ending (Kanata's story) = Normal Ending (Rizelia's story)?
Sry i have to do one Spoiler to answer this

Spoiler:

Since they join together at Chapter 11 it not like this evene so for every ending you need playtrough 7 because good endings have different images and so on refering which side you play but since bad endings dont have some you dont need them...so normal and good for both sides + true end on one side
but to go right to you question hm yes and no because they join you can if you get bad ending of kanata, riz automaticly too but the ending plots itself are different so normal ending kanata is not exactly normal ending riz so you need 5 playtroughs but to do true end you need at number x playtrough normal/good and at x+1 playtrough you need to chose the different side and meeting the requirements ^^

...that type of deal. I don't know, it's just been bugging me since I want to see all possible endings.

[Rhuen]

MY mind was working with even numbers, so I guess it glossed over the Prinny

It also sounds like NIS might own Miyu then as well. BUt Gust definetly owns Recit, if they are being even this means Idea Factory might own Mizuki (but with Prinny unbalancing the number between Gust and NIS I can't use the even numbers as reasoning).