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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Mirai » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:48 pm

Lago wrote:
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With regards to Junko, I think she's dead, without question. As for her body, from the description I took it as meaning that the Ultimate Despair members just salvaged what was left of her smushed corpse. While it's safe to assume most of it was pulp, I guess certain parts must have been more intact than others (like her hand, for instance).


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The point is that if she was killed in detention, her body would be so mushed up it would not be possible to retrieve her body parts in fine condition, just look at this picture from SDR2 below:
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As you can see her hand is completely intact, there's no scars, wounds or anything. That's just not possible if she was squashed in detention and her hand wouldn't conveniently fly away before it was squashed either. Unless this issue becomes some sort of twist in a future release, this is a plot-hole on Spike Chunsoft's part.


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Not really sure why you're focusing on this so much when she also got shot with hundreds of baseballs, got electrocuted in the motorcycle cage, got crush by a fire truck, got pummeled by a dozing machine, and came crashing down from high up in the sky in a rocket all without apparently suffering a scratch.


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What I'm saying is if she died in detention there's no way her body would be in one piece because if it was, then she would still be alive just like with all the other executions.

Also regarding your earlier post I very much agree on Souda making it to the end, as he was the only survivor who didn't have any strong connections to the students that had 'died'. I would of much preferred it if they kept Hiyoko.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby burai97 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:42 pm

so i was going to wait until i finished the game before talking about what i thought of the overall story but screw it, i have to talk about the trial in chapter 5 for a bit.
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I can't understand a lot of japanese so a lot of the emotional stuff went right past my head when playing the game but my god, the 2nd half of the trial was incredibly sad even with how little of it i can understand. i can just tell by the tone of their voices what was happening and chiaki sacrificing herself and reassuring everyone about it made me lose it and just start bawling. i think chiaki ended up being one of my favorite characters from the series.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Zetsubear » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:03 am

burai97 wrote:so i was going to wait until i finished the game before talking about what i thought of the overall story but screw it, i have to talk about the trial in chapter 5 for a bit.
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I can't understand a lot of japanese so a lot of the emotional stuff went right past my head when playing the game but my god, the 2nd half of the trial was incredibly sad even with how little of it i can understand. i can just tell by the tone of their voices what was happening and chiaki sacrificing herself and reassuring everyone about it made me lose it and just start bawling. i think chiaki ended up being one of my favorite characters from the series.

Do you want me to explain it or did you get a jist of it?
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby burai97 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:25 am

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burai97 wrote:so i was going to wait until i finished the game before talking about what i thought of the overall story but screw it, i have to talk about the trial in chapter 5 for a bit.
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I can't understand a lot of japanese so a lot of the emotional stuff went right past my head when playing the game but my god, the 2nd half of the trial was incredibly sad even with how little of it i can understand. i can just tell by the tone of their voices what was happening and chiaki sacrificing herself and reassuring everyone about it made me lose it and just start bawling. i think chiaki ended up being one of my favorite characters from the series.

Do you want me to explain it or did you get a jist of it?

yeah, i finished the game and i went on the wiki and it explained it there, i would actually talk about the ending but it's 3 am where i live so im really tired. thanks for offering though and thanks again for sending the walkthrough, it helped a lot.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Alice Twilight » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:46 am

Had SDR2 spoiled for me ages ago, haven't played it yet, but I want to ask, is Hiyoko's appearance that of a young girl because she was uploaded to the virtual world as her young self or is she just a tiny person?
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Mirai » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:55 am

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Alice Twilight wrote:Had SDR2 spoiled for me ages ago, haven't played it yet, but I want to ask, is Hiyoko's appeappearance that of a young girl because she was uploaded to the virtual world as her young self or is she just a tiny person?


The SDR2 cast's appearance in the New World Program is what they looked like when they had just started at Hope's Peak Academy. So to answer your question then Saionji's appearance is when she was around 16 and had just started at Hope's Peak which would of been a few years ago by the time SDR2 takes place.
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Postby Alice Twilight » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:59 am

That's cool, a buddy said she's actually a lot taller than she appears, so I wanted to ask.
I take it these guys are also DR1 casts senpais too then.

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Postby lopez » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:58 am

Please put a small description of what each spoiler is about:

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Postby Zetsubear » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:04 am

Alice Twilight wrote:That's cool, a buddy said she's actually a lot taller than she appears, so I wanted to ask.
I take it these guys are also DR1 casts senpais too then.

I honestly thought they were all the same age tbh. But it seems DR2 characters are around 18-19 currently.
While the DR1 characters are like 17-18ish. I have no clue just woke up
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Alice Twilight » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:13 am

Zetsubear wrote:
Alice Twilight wrote:That's cool, a buddy said she's actually a lot taller than she appears, so I wanted to ask.
I take it these guys are also DR1 casts senpais too then.

I honestly thought they were all the same age tbh. But it seems DR2 characters are around 18-19 currently.
While the DR1 characters are like 17-18ish. I have no clue just woke up


Confusing details are confusing.

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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Zetsubear » Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:38 am

Alice Twilight wrote:
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Alice Twilight wrote:That's cool, a buddy said she's actually a lot taller than she appears, so I wanted to ask.
I take it these guys are also DR1 casts senpais too then.

I honestly thought they were all the same age tbh. But it seems DR2 characters are around 18-19 currently.
While the DR1 characters are like 17-18ish. I have no clue just woke up


Confusing details are confusing.

Exactly lol.
First year students are ages 15-16, second year students 16-17 and third year students are 17-18 so yeah they might be over 18 since the DR2 students spent 2 full years there IIRC while the DR1 students had 1 or so.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Mirai » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:57 am

lopez wrote:Please put a small description of what each spoiler is about:

Monokuma
Spoiler:
Monokuma


My apologies its rather hypocritical of me to not even follow my own rules I posted on this thread, since you're a mod though you could of edited the post for me.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Alice Twilight » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:06 am

Metal Gear Solid 2 and Dangan Ronpa 2 have something very in common, both games have the same twist ending, the twist being both games take place in a simulated reality.

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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Mirai » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:10 pm

Ainara wrote: Please check out my post again, I have added content. Also, I think you're mixing up Dangan Island with Free Time Events.
Anyways! I don't want to post about this subject a lot since I don't want this turning into the Komaeda Thread, but I just wanted to clear things up, if that's okay.
I tend to re-edit things a lot because I'm a dumbo, so one last thing:
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His behavior post chapter 4 revelation was most likely an attempt at trying to convince HIMSELF he shouldn't worry/have feelings about Hinata, since, according to his wordlview (the same worldview that has basically kept him slightly sane or even alive) Hinata is a worthless person and he shouldn't care about him. But Komaeda is a very complex character, so who knows!


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Oh you meant that event well that's simple then. What Komeada loves isn't Hinata but the Hope that Hinata carries within him. When Komeada says they're similar its due to the fact that they are both obsessed with Hope's Peak, in other words Hope. Just like the only thing Junko loves is despair, Komeada only loves hope. Komaeda takes an interest in Hinata because he believes Hinata carries a lot of Hope in him so when he finds out that he is not only a reserve student but that he's even SHSL Despair the thing he despises most. His attitude towards Hinata changes drastically as he holds no hope within him so Komeada loses interest. Also do remember you can't socialise with him once he finds out the truth and his last free time event is before he finds out.
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Re: *SPOILERS* Dangan Ronpa 2 General Spoilers Discussion

Postby Ainara » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:30 pm

I...
Yeah, okay. I apologise in advance since I am terrible at wording things. That is a common way to interpret his feelings for him, but... Uh. It's actually kind of the opposite. There are people who have worded it better than me, let me search:
http://mrie.co.vu/post/77199090220/i-ju ... ngan-ronpa
That one explains it nicely, better than I ever could, honestly.
They have written a longer one, but due to it being very long and related to another topic, I'll put the most relevant paragraphs in here:
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[In response to another person]The problem with your argument is that you’re taking one little thing out of context and painting it as Komaeda inherently being malicious and emotionally manipulative, which really isn’t the case at all. The thing about how he made fun of Hinata wasn’t specifically to put him down, but to reinforce his own worldview and police his ideology that the talented are born talented and the untalented need to understand that they will never be talented. A part of it is also pushing aside his own insecurities.
Hinata is absolutely nothing special to the world but special to him, and he cannot figure out why. That’s why he said what he did to Hinata — not to degrade him, not to humiliate him, not to verbally abuse him, not to make him feel bad about himself.
He did it as a means of self-defense because he’s confused that his entire ideology and means of coping with his hopeless life are being challenged.

And a last one thing- I don't know how much of Komaeda's backstory you know but...
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"Just like the only thing Junko loves is despair, Komeada only loves hope." That hurt me a little. Komaeda and Junko comparisons always hurt me a little. Junko loves despair because she was born that way because she is the crazy villain of a crazy franchise.
Komaeda "loves" hope because after all the shit he had to go through, after losing every single person and thing that mattered to him in this world, after having to accept that his cycle of luck wouldn't let him be close to anybody and probably never be happy again, developing a worship of hope was the only way to stay alive. There's also the fact that he's mentally ill. No, it doesn't excuse his actions, but if I recall correctly one of the symptoms of FTD may be developing an obsession over certain concept, which. Didn't really help his situation at all, did it.
Komaeda didn't "love Hinata out of his obsession for hope" for two reasons. First, he equates Hope with Talent, and he probably always knew Hinata didn't have any. That's why he said so many times they were similar, he felt like Hinata was just a bystander, too. You saw his relationship as "Komaeda liked Hinata because of his hope > Komaeda discovered Hinata didn't have any > Komaeda stopped liking Hinata" when it's not so simple at all, and it's more like "Komaeda liked Hinata despite knowing that he may not have a talent, because Hinata tried to understand him despite being confused > Komaeda discovered Hinata didn't have a talent > Komaeda still liked him, he was scared because it challenged his worldview, tried to convince himself Hinata wasn't important and he doesn't like Hinata, when he did, in fact, still care about him."
And the second one is, the reason it's so important why Komaeda doesn't love Hinata out of hope is because his feelings for Hinata are the only thing in Komaeda that's remotely human. The only thing that didn't fit with his obsession with hope. And that's such an IMPORTANT part of his character

Aaand I'm closing up! It's really late where I live and I'm probably not making any sense, so I should really go to bed! I hope we can keep talking about this tomorrow, Komaeda is a really fascinating character.
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